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Best flat out Rockers
OK who is the best plain old flat out rock band. I dont want any prog bands, speed metal, death metal. Just good old rock. Im even going to disqualify my favorite rock band the Who for venturing of course. So no Zep, no Floyd. No Sabbath. Heres my contenders
1 Aerosmith
2 AC/DC
3 Guns and Roses
Honorable mention to George Thorougood and the Destroyers amd the Motor city mad man Ted Nugent.
Best female rocker Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
PS f the Stones were to only do a set of their rockers they still may be able to claim the title as the worlds greatest rock band. However I havent liked anything theve put out in decades.
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I don't like any of the ones you listed. In fact, I don't really like most rock that much.
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Why fight over tastes ?
Replace "fight" with what you'd like in case you find it too harsh for what is meant.
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Not really my kind of music (I'm more of the "softer" rock, The Who or something. Or even more soft Boston, BTO, Queen.)
Guns N' Roses have 2 good songs imo, November Rain and Sweet Child o' Mine.
But I'm going for AC/DC, simply better
And (but this one doesn't belong here either) The Darkness makes some very entertaining music.
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Guns N' Roses have 2 good songs imo, November Rain and Sweet Child o' Mine.
Man Welcome to the Jungle rocks.
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(I'm more of the "softer" rock, The Who
The hardest rocking band in history and you call them soft :laugh4:
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I don't like any of the ones you listed. In fact, I don't really like most rock that much.
S we can take this as spam I imagine.:inquisitive:
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The hardest rocking band in history and you call them soft
Heheh, I know. But they somehow seem more mild then something as Guns N' Roses.
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Heheh, I know. But they somehow seem more mild then something as Guns N' Roses.
And thats why i didnt put them on my list. If you want the best plain old rock band its the Who hands down. But their more than that so I left them out.
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I got to like Dr. Feelgood in the mid 70s, just before I discovered the 'joys' of punk rock. :sweatdrop:
Mind you this guy makes those wussies in Zep and Sabbath look like what they are....pink powder puffs! :laugh4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHephUTMbaQ
Edit: For the master.
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The Supersuckers.
Official Site
videos, see Rock and Roll Records (Ain't Selling This Year)
Despite forays into country Eddie Spaghetti and crew still play straight from the balls rock that is short, fast, sarcastic, and loud. Songs all about Beer, sex, parties, sex, sin, drugs, and sex.
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Pffft. No punk bands either lol.
Now this is what Im talkin about
Heres something that backs up all I claim. The Who the world loudest rock band and the main staters of heavy rock
The Who Live at Leeds 2--BBC Look North
Commentary by Rick Wakeman. If you never heard this album and you like rock its a must. And remember this is 1970 but the Who had been playing many of these songs since 64. Even most of my friends used to ask how can you listen to that noise.
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Bad Company/Free...basically Paul Rodgers
G 'N' R...you've gotta love them, even if Axl sounds like a Cat giving birth hehe
Where would you Classify Aerosmith?
Bruce. Springsteen. The Boss.
I agree Gawain, The Who are absolutly fantastic..and still going strong! i saw them live a couple of weeks ago and maaaan Won't get fooled again keeps me going all night haha (I'm still a devoted Floydaholic though ;))
EDIT: I just dug out my copy of Live at leeds...the word 'awesome' doesn't do them justice
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The Who is the best yes, but if you can't class them Springsteen can't be classed either, however good he is. Yes it's rock, but no real hardrock. As I said with The Who, it's just Rock ... but damned good Rock.
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As I said with The Who, it's just Rock ... but damned good Rock.
Thats where we part. They also are a prog rock band. Listen to all the orchestration in Tommy and Quad though some of their best rockers are on those albums. I love the opening bass lines in "Doctor Jimmy". No one has the energy of the Who . I feel sorry for all of you who never got to see the original. I went to their 10th aniversary concert at Madison Sq Garden and its still the best concert Ive even been to. And talking about rockers as the Who themselves say
Long Live Rock
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Down at the Astoria the scene was changing,
Bingo and rock were pushing out X-rating,
We were the first band to vomit in the bar,
And find the distance to the stage too far,
Meanwhile it's getting late at ten o'clock,
Rock is dead they say,
Long live rock.
Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.
People walk in sideways pretending that they're leaving,
We put on our makeup and work out all the lead-ins,
Jack is in the alley selling tickets made in Hong Kong,
Promoter's in the pay box wondering where the band's gone,
Back in the pub the governor stops the clock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock.
Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.
Landslide, rocks are falling,
Falling down 'round our very heads,
We tried but you were yawning,
Look again, rock is dead, rock is dead, rock is dead.
The place is really jumping to the high-watt amps,
'Til a 20-inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps,
In the blackout they dance right into the aisle,
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles,
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.
Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.
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Skynyrd come tops for me.
KISS should get an honourable mention too.
Check these out- Fireball Ministry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi3f...elated&search=
Really rockin, plus they get a bunch of cool points for having a chick who rocks some guitar...
These guys also have a zeppy vibe goin down- again with a super hot chick in the band- Young Heart Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PVqdbr1D6o
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KISS should get an honourable mention too.
Barf. A comic book band.
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Skynyrd come tops for me.
The King of southern rock IMO. Though I like British rock far better.
Great in concert but boring to listen to on record. Sorry just a matter of taste, Never saw what anyone sees in him. I didnt even mention the best rock voer band in history and the most succesful the Beatles. Paul still rocks the house. Helter Skelter
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Barf. A comic book band.
Nothing wrong with comics :yes:
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Nothing wrong with comics
I prefer the Fantastic Four :laugh4: And the Fab four for that matter.
Next to the Beatles they have to be the most commercial band in history. Theres nothing you cant get with a Kiss logo on it.
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Well, are we allowed the Beatles? The greatest band of all time!
If not then QUEEN.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
I prefer the Fantastic Four :laugh4: And the Fab four for that matter.
Next to the Beatles they have to be the most commercial band in history. Theres nothing you cant get with a Kiss logo on it.
A tampon? :inquisitive:
:laugh4:
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Well, are we allowed the Beatles?
No we are not. I even took out the Who.
From a google search
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Keep in mind that Peter is not exactly rolling in the dough from sales of the Kiss Bobbleheads, Kiss Tampon, Kiss Koffin, Kiss Breath Mints, etc etc etc. ...
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Thin Lizzy, for my money.
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Good grief Gawain. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
OK who is the best plain old flat out rock band. I dont want any prog bands, speed metal, death metal. Just good old rock. Im even going to disqualify my favorite rock band the Who for venturing of course. So no Zep, no Floyd. No Sabbath. Heres my contenders
1 Aerosmith
2 AC/DC
3 Guns and Roses
Aerosmith? AC/DC? Guns and Roses? Allow me to criticize them :)
Aerosmith: EGH!
AC/DC: BECH!
Guns and Roses: EGH!
As you might notice, my criticism is highly explanatory as well as well built and constructive :saint: Of course, it's a matter of taste but if that's the case I must say -- as the person on this site (http://www.youhavebadtasteinmusic.com/) had been doing to others -- you have bad taste in music!
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
...AC/DC...
Possibly the least talented band ever, all of their songs sound the same.
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Possibly the least talented band ever, all of their songs sound the same.
Are you sure your not thinking of Iron Maiden? :laugh4: Less talented than Kiss?
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Are you sure your not thinking of Iron Maiden? :laugh4: Less talented than Kiss?
Gah to them all.
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Iron Maiden's songs do NOT sound all the same...
They have some of the flat out coolest metal tunes of all time...better than any modern "music" by far, the Trooper man...THE TROOPER!
AC/DC are pretty damn good, and you asked for flat out rockers, you can't really get more flat out rock than them..
what about some of the better hair metal from the '80s...Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and such, Pour some Sugar on me is such a cool song.
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Leppard aren't bad, nothing special though.
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Yeah! there's no arm in Leppard :embarassed:
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what about some of the better hair metal from the '80s...Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and such, Pour some Sugar on me is such a cool song.
Gah no hair bands. Great white yuk.
No mention yet of the Kinks the fathers of Punk.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Gah no hair bands. Great white yuk.
No mention yet of the Kinks the fathers of Punk.
The Kinks the father of punk?:inquisitive:
Look, I like Ray, he writes good tunes, but the father of punk is off base old mate. They were after all Mods, not rockers.
It's usually accepted that the New York Dolls, MC5, Lou Reed (and the Velvets), Iggy Pop amongst others help to create the genre.
Of course UK punk was very different to US/New York punk. Bands like the Pistols, the Clash et al had very little in common with Patti Smith, Tom Verlain, David Byrne etc.
I recall Richard Starkey being asked if he was a mod or a rocker, his reply?
"I'm a mocker". :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Nirvana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
I would have thought that they were a bit on the old side for a young whippsnapper.
http://ukpsych.tripod.com/nirvana.htm
Hang on! Did you mean the copycat band from the 90s? :inquisitive: :laugh4:
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Every time I see your location I think of the monty python skit about the third world:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: .
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The Kinks the father of punk?
Look, I like Ray, he writes good tunes, but the father of punk is off base old mate. They were after all Mods, not rockers.
Yes and the Who were Mods as well. The two are not mutually exclusive.
The Who as well can claim to be the fathers of Punk. You better check its roots. I didnt say they were punk bands, The difference is they can actually play their instruments and sing unlike Punks.
Listen to Father Christmas sometime. Listen to the bass lines.
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Every time I see your location I think of the monty python skit about the third world:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: .
That wasn't a skit, it was too close to the knuckle in some parts around here. :sweatdrop:
@ Gawain,
Nope wrong again. The Who were definitely not considered progenitors of punk, in fact the Who, Kinks etc etc, were universally loathed by punks at the time, as being 'boring old farts'. Hence the story of Jagger having his nose broken by Lydon when he slammed a shop door in his face.
Put it another way. Punk was an attempt to go back to Rock 'n' Roll roots. No guitar solos, no fuzz or wah wah pedals, no prima donna axemen boring you to death with his onanistic fumblings.
Guys like Jerry Lee Lewis would prolly be more appropriate as a progenitor.
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Are we disqualifying grunge ?
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were universally loathed by punks at the time, as being 'boring old farts'. Hence the story of Jagger having his nose broken by Lydon when he slammed a shop door in his face.
They can deny it all they like
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While they’ve stayed true to their garage-punk roots - think Ramones and Kinks
Curses swear by punk roots
All you need do is listen to the music and the roots are clear. Again they werent Punk bands but they did inspire the early punkers as i imgine did Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground. Iggy pop and the Ramones were the first big real Punk rockers if thats what you driving at. Hey lets not leave out the MC5.
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I guess Van Halen would be a "hair band" and thus be disqualified?
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Hey lets not leave out the MC5
I didn't. :wink:
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It's usually accepted that the New York Dolls, MC5, Lou Reed (and the Velvets), Iggy Pop amongst others help to create the genre.
I see at what your driving at Gawain. Three chord tricks, four members of the band, one lead singer. All that could be seen as 'influencing' punk. To some degree, but only because that's how rock and roll came about after the big band sound. Mainly down to the introduction of amplifiers.
Take it from me, as a punk from 76. The Who and all those really old guys, (over 30:laugh4: ) were derided and scoffed at.
Under no circumstances mention The Jam. :wall: :whip:
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I see at what your driving at Gawain. Three chord tricks, four members of the band, one lead singer. All that could be seen as 'influencing' punk. To some degree, but only because that's how rock and roll came about after the big band sound. Mainly down to the introduction of amplifiers.
Dont leave out the lyrics.
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Take it from me, as a punk from 76. The Who and all those really old guys, (over 30 ) were derided and scoffed at.
Deride them all you like its still where the roots of punk lie. Your a generation to late to have witnessed it. They took political themes and stuff like Dylan wrote and put it to heavy rock. Heck a lot of their songs were banned in England.
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Dont leave out the lyrics.
I hadn't forgotten about them. But as this is the frontroom....:sweatdrop:
Oh go on then.
A generation too late? :inquisitive: I'm only 7 years younger than you! :laugh4:
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Oh go on then.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Thats the Kinks? :laugh4:
Dont tell me you cant see the roots of Punk in My Generation
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People try to put us d-down (talkin bout my generation)
People try to put us d-down (talkin bout my generation)
Just because we get around (talkin bout my generation)
Just because we get around (talkin bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (talkin bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (talkin bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
This is my generation, baby
Why dont you all f-fade away (talkin bout my generation)
Why dont you all f-fade away (talkin bout my generation)
And dont try to dig what we all s-s-say (talkin bout my generation)
And dont try to dig what we all s-s-say (talkin bout my generation)
Im not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (talkin bout my generation)
Im not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (talkin bout my generation)
Im just talkin bout my g-g-g-generation (talkin bout my generation)
Im just talkin bout my g-g-g-generation (talkin bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
This is my generation, baby
Why dont you all f-fade away (talkin bout my generation)
Why dont you all f-fade away (talkin bout my generation)
And dont try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (talkin bout my generation)
And dont try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (talkin bout my generation)
Im not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (talkin bout my generation)
Im not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (talkin bout my generation)
Im just talkin bout my g-g-generation (talkin bout my generation)
Im just talkin bout my g-g-generation (talkin bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
This is my generation, baby
People try to put us d-down (talkin bout my generation)
People try to put us d-down (talkin bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (talkin bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (talkin bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin bout my generation)
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (talkin bout my generation)
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (talkin bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
This is my generation, baby
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A generation too late? I'm only 7 years younger than you!
Thats a rock generation:laugh4:
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Thats a rock generation
*slaps his own forehead* :2thumbsup:
LMFAO, I'd forgotten about that.
'New Waves' tended to come around every decade or so. R'n'R in the mid-late fifties. Hippies cica 66-70. (we shall skirt glam rock for the purposes of good music :wink:). Punks 76-80-(present). Then dance music in the late 80s, acid house and all that bollox.
Now we get Simon Cowell. :sweatdrop: :whip:
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The Tap.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkney
Down at the Astoria the scene was changing
Indeed.
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Spinal Tap - Break Like the Wind
Spinal Tap - Bitch School
"It's a song about training dogs."
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AC/DC, no question. They might not be the best band, but they are by far the best rockers.
And as an additional bonus, they've made no ballads. I hate rock n' roll bands doing ballads, it's just wrong. Period.
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Lynyrd Skynyrd is currently my favourite rock band, albeit that might change later on.
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And as an additional bonus, they've made no ballads.
Wrong. Check out Ride On from the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt cheap album. Great song, but I bet they've never played it live!
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Originally Posted by Axeknight
Great song, but I bet they've never played it live
You must always consult the AC/DC master on such matters! :book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYVo-cWN8eE
~;)
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Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
That song just doesn't sound right with Johnson singing. :no:
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Are you sure your not thinking of Iron Maiden? :laugh4: Less talented than Kiss?
Dude...
The Maiden rule, how can you say that their songs sound the same, without feeling guilty?
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Dude...
The Maiden rule, how can you say that their songs sound the same, without feeling guilty?
Dude the guy said All AC/DC sounded the same. I was joking. Now admit all their covers look the same but they all look really insane :laugh4: I hate when I have to pull them for an order.
I must say Im amazed theres not more Aerosmith Fans out there. They sure do rock.
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Dude the guy said All AC/DC sounded the same. I was joking. Now admit all their covers look the same but they all look really insane :laugh4: I hate when I have to pull them for an order.
Oh, well then that's all right...
Yeah well their covers do look the same, but on the early cd's whed you but their spines together it makes picture.
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Yeah well their covers do look the same, but on the early cd's whed you but their spines together it makes picture
Yes be we have 20 or 30 copies of each all in a big pile on the shelf. Its a pain getting the right one. I mean all the same title is together but still.
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I don't care if they are good 'ol rock 'n roll or not I'm postin bands that get my blood flowin so whatever:
Blue Oyster Cult, The Steve Miller Band, The Who, The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Def Leppard, Jimi Hendrix, Scorpions, The Eagles, Queen, AC/DC, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Guns 'N Roses, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones.
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Nice list. And Cult was another band ahead of its time.
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Thanks.Yea the Cult is rather good and Godzilla and Don't Fear the Reaper are my favs atm, and I am keeping look out for their CD's in the local stores.
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Thanks.Yea the Cult is rather good and Godzilla and Don't Fear the Reaper are my favs atm, and I am keeping look out for their CD's in the local stores.
Being the old dinosaur I am I can remember them playing over here as the Soft White Underbelly in the local clubs here on Long Island. The amount of talented musicians from Long Island is staggering and legendary. Few places can compare except maybe Liverpool :laugh4:
Long Island Music Hall of Fame
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2006 Inductees
* Mose Allison
* Sam Ash
* Tony Bennett
* Gary U.S. Bonds
* Harry Chapin
* George M. Cohan
* John Coltrane
* Perry Como
* James (Jimmy) D'Aquisto
* Ace Frehley
* George Gershwin
* Richie Havens
* Joan Jett
* Billy Joel
* Cyndi Lauper
* Little Anthony and the Imperials
* Long Island Philharmonic
* Edward "Little Buster" Forehand
* Johnny Maestro & The Brooklyn Bridge
* Marian McPartland
* George "Shadow" Morton
* Run-DMC
* Neil Sedaka
* Gene Simmons
* Paul Stanley
* Peter Criss
* Stray Cats
* Stony Brook University
* Sam "Bluzman" Taylor
* Twisted Sister
* Vanilla Fudge
* Leslie West
[edit] 2007 Inductees
* Louis Armstrong
* Count Basie
* Walter Becker
* Pat Benatar
* Blue Öyster Cult
* Bob Buchmann
* Mariah Carey
* Aaron Copland
* Neil Diamond
* The Good Rats
* Arlo Guthrie
* Marvin Hamlisch
* Carole King
* LL Cool J
* Guy Lombardo
* Eddie Money
* Public Enemy
* The Ramones
* Beverly Sills
* Simon and Garfunkel
* Barbra Streisand
All from LI and most Ive seen play locally.
Oh and not from LI but one of my favorite rock bands that no one has yet mentioned.....STYX
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I must say Im amazed theres not more Aerosmith Fans out there. They sure do rock.
I have Toys In The Attic, they're good and all but not my favourite by a long shot.
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Originally Posted by Moros
George Michael!
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
You aint nicked any of his stash by any chance? :inquisitive: :laugh4:
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Joe Strummer, lead singer of "The Clash"...
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
You aint nicked any of his stash by any chance? :inquisitive: :laugh4:
Why, me? Never!
:boxedin:
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seeing as prog rock's been discounted *growl*, and most of my other tastes ('cept possibly Asia) probably wouldn't count.
I can't post anything.
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Queens of the Stone Age
I'm not counting Kyuss
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Originally Posted by Axeknight
Wrong. Check out Ride On from the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt cheap album. Great song, but I bet they've never played it live!
Well, they haven't made ballads anyone has heard of. For example, if you put on guns n' roses at a party, there's always an idiot who wants to listen to sweet child of mine, knockin' on heavens door or don't cry. If you put on AC/DC, people will only want to hear thunderstruck, highway to hell, hail cæsar, shoot to thrill, etc etc...
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put on AC/DC, people will only want to hear thunderstruck, highway to hell, hail cæsar, shoot to thrill, etc etc...
Better play dirty deeds and TNT first.:laugh4:
I still think Aerosmith has more good rockers.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Better play dirty deeds and TNT first.:laugh4:
I still think Aerosmith has more good rockers.
Agreed although I don't have really any favorites from AC/DC except for
"Back In Black"(Oakland Raider Fan). But I agree Aerosmith is a bit underrated and somewhat over looked because(from what I can tell anyways) they are usually compared to The Rolling Stones.
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But I agree Aerosmith is a bit underrated and somewhat over looked because(from what I can tell anyways) they are usually compared to The Rolling Stones.
Must be Steven Tyler's lips.:laugh4:
The big difference being that they started a few years later but continued to produce great records into the next century. The stones ran out of gas in the early 80s and IMO are still living on their rep. However again. If you were to have a Band put together say a 20 or 25 song set of their best rockers the Stones are still hard to beat. Their 60's and 70's stuff rocked the house.
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Aerosmith, who have been performing as the original lineup for the past 23 years, have sold 150 million albums worldwide, 65.5 million albums in the United States alone, making them the bestselling American hard rock band of all time.[5] They also hold the record for the most gold, platinum, and multi-platinum albums by an American group.[6] The band has scored 27 Top 40 hits on multiple charts around the world, nine #1 Mainstream Rock hits, four Grammy awards, and ten Video Music Awards. They were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2001. They continue to tour and average one million dollars a show.[7] Their musical evolution over the years has made them major innovators in American hard rock, pop, glam, blues, and rap, and has inspired legions of rock artists that came after them. Their numerous contributions to other forms of media have further solidified their status as pop culture icons.
The band has a loyal fanbase numbering over a million worldwide, known as the Blue Army, that has equally spanned the last three generations.[11] Aerosmith's longevity, durability, and adaptability have allowed them to sustain high levels of popularity, acclaim, and success for the better part of the 37 years they have been active.
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AC/DC have sold more than 150 million albums worldwide, including more than 68 million albums in the U.S.[5] Back in Black has sold 42 million units worldwide, including 21 million in the U.S.,[6] making it the second-highest-selling album ever internationally, and the biggest-selling album by any band.[7] The band are ranked fourth on VH1's 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock.[8]
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction
Brian Johnson (left) singing with Aerosmith's Steven Tyler in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Brian Johnson (left) singing with Aerosmith's Steven Tyler in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
AC/DC were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in March 2003. During the ceremony the band performed "Highway to Hell" and "You Shook Me All Night Long", with guest vocals provided by host Steven Tyler of Aerosmith. He described the band's power chords as "the thunder from down under that gives you the second-most-powerful surge that can flow through your body."[55]
Its a tuff choice and I cant see how Aerosmith is being so totally ignored here. Most of AC/DCs thunder comes from Back in Black.
It is kind of funny how they managed to sell 5 million more records here than Aerosmith who is by this account the top selling band in US history. This however would mean the Aerosmith has sold more records around the rest of the world.
Now on to my claim that the Who invented hard rock
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Marshall Stacks
In the early and mid 1960s, Pete Townshend and John Entwistle were directly responsible for the creation and widespread use of stacked Marshall cabinets. Townshend later remarked that John started using Marshall Stacks in order to hear himself over Keith Moon's drums, and Pete himself also had to use them just to be heard over John.
In fact, the very first 100 watt Marshall amplifiers (called "Superleads") were created specifically for Entwistle and Townshend when they were looking to replace some equipment which had been stolen from them. Prior to the theft they were each using 50 watt amplifiers, Entwistle was using a Marshall JTM45 and Townshend had a Fender Bassman.
They approached Jim Marshall asking if it would be possible for him to make their new rigs more powerful than those they had lost, to which they were told that the speaker cabinets would have to double in size. They agreed and six rigs of this prototype were manufactured, of which two each were given to Townshend and Entwistle and one each to Ronnie Lane and Steve Marriott of The Small Faces. These new "double" cabinets proved too heavy and awkward to be transported practically, so The Who returned to Marshall asking if they could be cut in half and stacked, and although the double cabinets were left intact, the existing single cabinet models were modified for stacking, and has become the standard over the years. Due to the urgency of the situation, the amplifiers were simply modified versions of the existing 50 watt JTM45 model with the output valves doubled, and were thus named the JTM45-100.
Entwistle and Townshend both continued expanding and experimenting with their rigs, until (at a time when most bands still used 50–100W amplifiers with single cabinets) they were both using twin Stacks, with each Stack being driven by new experimental prototype 200W amplifiers (nicknamed "Pigs" for their extra grunt). This, in turn, also had a strong influence on the band's contemporaries at the time, with Cream and The Jimi Hendrix Experience both following suit. However, due to the cost of transport, The Who could not afford to take their full rigs with them for their earliest overseas tours; thus, Cream and Hendrix were the first to be seen to use this setup on a wide scale, particularly in America and London.
Ironically, although The Who pioneered and directly contributed to the development of the "classic" Marshall sound and setup with their equipment being built/tweaked to their personal specifications, by the time they could afford to transport their equipment overseas a couple of years later, they had stopped using Marshalls and moved on to Sound City (Hiwatt) equipment. Cream and particularly Hendrix would be widely miscredited with the invention of Marshall Stacks.[2][
Sound City and the invention of Hiwatt amplifiers
John Entwistle traded in his Marshall Stacks in favour of Sound City at the beginning of 1967, and Townshend followed later that year.
Around this time, Jimi Hendrix and his manager Chas Chandler approached Townshend asking for his opinion on amplification. He told them that he had stopped using Marshall as he thought Sound City were better. The Jimi Hendrix Experience subsequently started using Sound City rigs, but set them up together with their Marshall Stacks instead of replacing them. Cream also used Sound City alongside their Marshalls for their final "farewell" tour in 1968.
In late 1968 The Who approached Dallas Arbiter, the makers of Sound City, asking if their equipment could be modified slightly. This request was denied, but independent amp designer/manufacturer Dave Reeves, a former employee of Sound City, agreed and created customised Sound City L100 amplifiers under the name Hylight Electronics. This model was named the Hiwatt DR103, which would be modified in 1970 into the CP103 "Super Who 100" model which Townshend used almost exclusively for over a decade. In 1973 the updated DR103W model was created, which has been the central piece of equipment around which Townshend's various rigs have been built for the past thirty years.[3][4]
The use of Hiwatt amplifiers would later also be adopted by many rock guitarists, including David Gilmour of Pink Floyd and Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam.
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Record sales are bad indacators of anything. Most of the music I listen to none of yall have ever heard becuase those exces in Nashville dont like Texas music.
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Record sales are bad indacators of anything. Most of the music I listen to none of yall have ever heard becuase those exces in Nashville dont like Texas music.
And most of us dont like real country anyway. If not for Shania and Garth Brooks and the like mainstream America could care less. Was it you who named Thin Lizzy the best rock band? :laugh4: Record sales are an indication of how poular a band is not how good it is I will grant you. But the two are no mutaly exclusive and in fact tied very closely together. For me and many the Beatles are the best and they are the best sellers.
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Skynyrd is the best. I dont even know who thin lizard is
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Skynyrd is the best. I dont even know who thin lizard is
Their pretty damned good. What you dont like the Allman Bros or Marshal Tucker better? :laugh4: How about 38 Special? Anyway Im not big on southern rock. I must admit I love Skynrds reply to Neil Young.:laugh4:
And Gimme back my bullets is great and Gimme Three Steps cracks me up.
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I forgot to mention Boston too. Funny thing is is that I get some of their songs mixed up with The Steve Miller Band's songs lol.
As for AC/DC I bought "Back in Black" for the title song 'cuz it's always played by my favorite American Football team, it was then I realized how kickass it was. Somebody asked me what I was listening to from my college soccer team while traveling, I told them AC/DC and they told me not to go and slit somebody's throat lol.
BTW, what are good Aerosmith and Rolling Stones CD's? One of my friends says that 40 Licks is okay but it's best to get their other cd's instead.
O yea, what do you guys think about Eric Clapton and Cream?
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Their pretty damned good. What you dont like the Allman Bros or Marshal Tucker better? :laugh4: How about 38 Special? Anyway Im not big on southern rock. I must admit I love Skynrds reply to Neil Young.:laugh4:
And Gimme back my bullets is great and Gimme Three Steps cracks me up.
Its all about Freebird and Simple Man:smash:
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I think Simple Man (imho) is one of the best songs ever made.
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BTW, what are good Aerosmith and Rolling Stones CD's? One of my friends says that 40 Licks is okay but it's best to get their other cd's instead.
Well both have numerous greatest hit albums or are you looking for their best individual albums? For instance early Stone albums have tons of great stuff you will never see on those GH albums and the same for Aerosmith.
For Aerosmith Id go with Toys in the Attic,Pump and Get a Grip for starts.
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It was 1975's Toys in the Attic, however, that established Aerosmith as international stars competing with the likes of Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones. Originally derided as Rolling Stones knockoffs, Toys in the Attic showed that Aerosmith was a talented band in their own right, incorporating elements of blues, glam rock, heavy metal, punk music, psychedelia, and pop. Toys in the Attic was an immediate success, starting with the single "Sweet Emotion", which became the band's first Top 40 hit. This was followed by a successful re-release of "Dream On" which hit #6, becoming their best charting single of the 1970s. The 2nd song from the album, "Walk This Way", reached the Top 10 in early 1977.
1. Toys in the Attic
2. Uncle Salty
3. Adam's Apple
4. Walk This Way
5. Big Ten Inch Record
6. Sweet Emotion
7. No More No More
8. Round and Round
9. You See Me Crying
PUMP
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1 Young Lust (4:18)
2 F.I.N.E. (4:09)
3 Going Down/Love in an Elevator (5:38)
4 Monkey on My Back (3:57)
5 Water Song/Janie's Got a Gun (5:38)
6 Dulcimer Stomp/The Other Side (4:56)
7 My Girl (3:10)
8 Don't Get Mad, Get Even (4:48)
9 Hoodoo/Voodoo Medicine Man (4:39)
10 What It Takes
Get A grip
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Intro (:23)
2 Eat the Rich (4:09)
3 Get a Grip (3:58)
4 Fever (4:15)
5 Livin' on the Edge (6:20)
6 Flesh (5:56)
7 Walk on Down (3:37)
8 Shut Up and Dance (4:55)
9 Cryin' (5:08)
10 Gotta Love It (5:58)
11 Crazy (5:16)
12 Line Up (4:02)
13 Amazing (5:56)
14 Boogie Man
Now the Stones maybe a little harder
Heres one of their better early albums
Aftermath. I prefer the US version as it includes Paint it Black
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US track listing
1. "Paint It, Black" – 3:45
2. "Stupid Girl" – 2:55
3. "Lady Jane" – 3:09
4. "Under My Thumb" – 3:41
5. "Doncha Bother Me" – 2:41
6. "Think" – 3:09
7. "Flight 505" – 3:27
8. "High And Dry" – 3:08
9. "It's Not Easy" – 2:56
10. "I Am Waiting" – 3:11
11. "Going Home" – 11:13
One of my Favorite Stones albums and their answer to Pepper. Them at their most physcadelic
Their Satanic Majesties Request
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All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, except where noted.
1. "Sing This All Together" – 3:46
2. "Citadel" – 2:50
3. "In Another Land" (Bill Wyman) – 3:15
* The first appearance of a Bill Wyman song on an official Rolling Stones album. "Downtown Suzie" from Metamorphosis would be the second (and last) song written by Wyman to be recorded and released by the Stones
* Concludes with a recording of Wyman snoring
* Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane of the Small Faces are featured on guitar and backing vocals
4. "2000 Man" – 3:07
* Featured in the Wes Anderson film "Bottle Rocket"
5. "Sing This All Together (See What Happens)" – 8:33
* Contains a hidden coda entitled "Cosmic Christmas"
6. "She's a Rainbow" – 4:35
* Strings arranged by John Paul Jones
7. "The Lantern" – 4:23
8. "Gomper" – 5:08
9. "2000 Light Years from Home" – 4:45
10. "On With The Show" – 3:39
Let it Bleed
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All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, except where noted. The order in which track titles appeared on the back of the LP sleeve did not reflect their actual order of play -- not unusual in its day. The correct orders were shown on the record's label.
[edit] Side A
1. "Gimme Shelter" – 4:32
* Features Merry Clayton on backing vocals
2. "Love in Vain" (Robert Johnson) – 4:22
* Features Ry Cooder on mandolin
3. "Country Honk" – 3:10
* Country version of "Honky Tonk Women" Features Mick Taylor on guitar
4. "Live With Me" – 3:36
* Features both Leon Russell and Nicky Hopkins on piano with Keith Richards on bass and Mick Taylor on guitar
5. "Let It Bleed" – 5:34
[edit] Side B
1. "Midnight Rambler" – 6:57
* Features Brian Jones on percussion
2. "You Got the Silver" – 2:54
* Keith Richards' first solo lead vocal on a Rolling Stones song; Brian Jones plays autoharp
3. "Monkey Man" – 4:15
4. "You Can't Always Get What You Want" – 7:30
* Features producer Jimmy Miller on drums and Al Kooper on French horn, piano and organ
Again I dont reccomend GH albums if you really want to see what a band is all about.
