Leadership Test
Four questions to determine which Anglo-American commander you are most like in leadership style.
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Leadership Test
Four questions to determine which Anglo-American commander you are most like in leadership style.
Nifty.
Crazed Rabbit
We haven't had a good quiz in a while, so bravo.
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I got Robert E. Lee
Why are you guys spoil tagging your results?
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Fourth on Bradley.
Gee. We're a bunch of quiet armchair generals aren't we.
omar bradley numba 5.
i'm moving and have no chairs, so i'm a floor general. :/
John Pual Jones
Napoleon Bonaparte :beam: :2thumbsup:
Biography:
Napoleon Bonaparte was one of the greatest military geniuses of all time and a colossal political figure. Born in Corsica, he attended French military schools at Brienne and Paris. In his first famous campaign, he was given command of France’s army in Italy, and quickly defeated Sardinia and Austria. This was the beginning of his legend. He captured Malta from the British, defeated the Turks in Egypt, and defeated the Austrians at Marengo. He was named military dictator of France in 1799. After a string of further victories, he was finally defeated in Russia — by the Russian winter, which decimated his troops. He continued to have victories, but he was routed at Leipzig, and France was invaded. Forced to abdicate, he returned to battle later but was finally defeated at Waterloo by a combined British and Prussian force.
Leadership Attributes:
Napoleon was a brilliant planner. In fact, he set up an entirely new system for raising and training an army that revolutionized the field. He was not only a great general but a skillful diplomat, able to consolidate and extend power through treaties and political manipulation as well as on the battlefield. After defeating Sardinia and Austria in Italy, he made several gains through the use of treaties. He set up a friendly republican regime in Lombardy, a tactic he used on other occasions.
Another Bradley.
Wesley Clark
And I was hoping for Patton too:wall:Quote:
Biography:
Graduating from West Point at the head of his class, Wes Clark has achieved success throughout his military career. He served in Vietnam; was a key negotiator of the Dayton Peace Accords; and was head of the U.S. European Command. Clark was an Armor Officer who commanded at every level from company to division. As Supreme Allied Commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, he led the 19-member alliance to victory in Kosovo — NATO's longest and most difficult military campaign.
Leadership Attributes:
Clark has had a distinguished military career. As Commander-in-Chief, United States Southern Command, Panama, he directed all U.S. forces in Latin America and the Caribbean. As the Director, Strategic Plans and Policy, J5, the Joint Staff, he was the staff officer responsible for U.S. military strategic planning. Clark is also known for considerable diplomatic prowess — he was chiefly responsible for holding together the 19-member NATO alliance in Kosovo. He was also the lead military negotiator of the Dayton Peace Accords that brought the war in the former Yugoslavia to a halt.
Biography:
Robert E. Lee was the legendary commander of the Confederate forces in the Civil War. Against overwhelming odds, Lee scored victory after victory against the Union forces led by seven different generals. Famous battles include: 2nd Bull Run, Antietam, Gettysburg, and — possibly his greatest performance — Chancellorsville. Outnumbered two to one, Lee broke with convention and divided his forces not once but twice — ultimately driving the Federal army under Joseph Hooker from the field.
Leadership Attributes:
Personally, General Lee was reserved and seemed enigmatic to his men. But on the battlefield he was daring and audacious, as at Chancellorsville, where he divided his troops in the face of greater opposing forces. His diplomatic skills were as well-honed as his generalship. For example, in his early role as presidential adviser to Jefferson Davis, he tried to ease the difficult personalities of Confederacy President Jefferson Davis and General Joseph E. Johnston.
I was honestly expecting Omar Bradley, I've always admired Patton but considered myself much more like Bradley. Never once, did I imagine myself a good Confederate.
Why ARE you guys putting the results in spoilers? :inquisitive:
Dwight D. Eisenhower!
Oh yeah!
Dwight Eisenhower was both a great military leader and politician. An innovative tank commander before World War II, Eisenhower was appointed to lead the invasion of North Africa as Commander of the European Theater of Operations. He was later chosen to command Operation Overlord, the invasion of Northern Europe, and later became supreme commander of the Allied forces in western Europe. After his military career, he ran for and won the Presidency.
Leadership Attributes:
An avid planner, Eisenhower worked in the army's war plans division and was known for his strong strategic and organizational skills. Eisenhower was given the position of Supreme Allied Commander partially because of his consummate diplomatic skills. He used his skills throughout the war to balance the various Allied personalities. Field Marshall Montgomery said that Eisenhower was the only one with the personality to get all of the Allies to cooperate and win the war. Personally, he was likable and outgoing. Indeed, the motto of his presidential campaign reflected this: "I like Ike."
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Fixed it for you :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Teddy Roosevelt!
Biography:
Teddy Roosevelt was one of the most dramatic figures in American history. He was both an accomplished civilian and military leader. He captured the nation's imagination by leading the "Rough Riders" in the Spanish American war. As assistant secretary of the Navy under President William McKinley, Roosevelt vigorously worked toward a two-ocean Navy. As President, he was known for advocating environmental conservation, pro-labor policies, and expansionism.
Leadership Attributes:
Teddy Roosevelt was a man of action and preferred to lead from the front. He stunned the country when he resigned his powerful and comfortable position as assistant secretary of the Navy to establish and lead the Rough Riders in the Spanish American War. He achieved lasting fame by leading his regiment in a bold charge up Kettle Hill in the Battle of Santiago. Personally, he was upbeat and dominant. As President, he was a skilled diplomat, negotiating many issues favorable to the U.S., including Alaska's boundary with Canada. He even helped bring an end to the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905, for which he received the Nobel Peace Prize.
Omar Bradley
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Why? I said I'd jump into my jeep and visit the troops when communication fails.:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
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Dwight D. Eisenhower!
Shame, perhaps? :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
William C. Westmoreland for me. Never heard of him before today though.
Teddy Roosevelt for me!
Hah, never thought of that...
I got teddy as well.
Lord Horatio Nelson!
Biography:
Born to a poor family, Horatio Nelson was taken to sea by his uncle Captain Maurice Suckling, who would later become comptroller of the British Navy. From these humble beginnings, Nelson went on to become a military legend. He won a brilliant victory against the Spanish in the Battle of Cape St. Vincent. He gave the French a crushing defeat at the Battle of the Nile, which helped forestall Napoleon's ambitions. And he contributed to the victory of the Battle of Trafalgar, which kept Britain safe from future invasion by Napoleon's forces.
Leadership Attributes:
Lord Nelson was brave in battle, and believed in leading from the front. In the Battle of St. Vincent, he helped a fleet of 15 ships defeat a Spanish fleet of 27 ships. Despite his ship being seriously damaged, Nelson ordered the ship forward and personally led the boarders onto the ship, engaging in hand-to-hand combat. He then boarded a second ship later in the battle! Nelson also planned diligently and had a reputation for great intelligence. He had his sailors' and the nation's love, and was regarded as a national hero.
I'm proud to be the first Stonewall Jackson.
Robert E. Lee!
Biography:
Robert E. Lee was the legendary commander of the Confederate forces in the Civil War. Against overwhelming odds, Lee scored victory after victory against the Union forces led by seven different generals. Famous battles include: 2nd Bull Run, Antietam, Gettysburg, and — possibly his greatest performance — Chancellorsville. Outnumbered two to one, Lee broke with convention and divided his forces not once but twice — ultimately driving the Federal army under Joseph Hooker from the field.
Leadership Attributes:
Personally, General Lee was reserved and seemed enigmatic to his men. But on the battlefield he was daring and audacious, as at Chancellorsville, where he divided his troops in the face of greater opposing forces. His diplomatic skills were as well-honed as his generalship. For example, in his early role as presidential adviser to Jefferson Davis, he tried to ease the difficult personalities of Confederacy President Jefferson Davis and General Joseph E. Johnston.
Omar Bradley
I was kinda hoping for Eisenhower, but I can't complain.
Bradley.
Could be worse.
i got patton
Wesley Clark.
Another Bradley.
Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington!
http://www.military.com/LeaderShipTe...d.htm,,00.htmlQuote:
Biography:
Known as the Iron Duke, the Duke of Wellington was an accomplished leader both politically and militarily. After attending military school, he was sent to India, where he defeated the Tipu Sultan and the Marathas. When the Portuguese rose against Napoleon, Wellesley was ordered to support them, and he won success in what became known as the Peninsular War. He invaded France days after Napoleon abdicated. However, when Napoleon escaped exile and rose again, Wellington and the Prussian field marshal Gebhard Leberecht Blücher defeated him at the famous battle of Waterloo. Consequently, he became Britain's greatest hero. He later leveraged his popularity on the battlefield to become Prime Minister.
Leadership Attributes:
Wellington was known as a cautious general and a careful planner. He paid great attention to detail, with outstanding results. He was as great a diplomat as warrior. After victory at Assaye in India, he personally negotiated the treaty. A hero of the entire nation, Wellington was reserved and unassuming.
I got Grant.
Patton for me - funny though - I almost always seem to be having my rear end handed to me!!!!
Grant.
I wanted Sherman, but Grant is kind of cool because I'm related to him. He was my grandmother's great uncle or something like that.
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Douglas MacArthur!
I got Bradley. His answers just seemed self-evidently right. (The only one I paused over was on going to the Front).
But I think the quiz got Wellington wrong - to get him, you need the same responses as Bradley (Q1: Plan; Q3: Go to the Front; Q4: Negotiate) except that Q2 should be a detailed, not general, plan.
Yet one of the most memorable things I recall Wellington having said was when he compared himself to Massena. He said Massena created intricate plans, like a harness with many leads. The problem with that was that if things went wrong, it was very hard to fix the plan. By contrast, he - Wellington - made a simple plan like a sturdy rope, so that if things went wrong, it was easy to tie a knot and fix it.
Nelson for me.
I got Robert E. Lee.
Another Wesley Clark.
I got Robert E. Lee
Teddy Roosevelt. w00t
one of my favorite presidents and idols, and also ironically enough the inspiration for my sig.
Teddy Roosevelt!
Quid
Interesting. I'm the only one thus far to have gotten William Tecumseh Sherman.
He was the senior commander of American forces in Vietnam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Robert E. Lee
I. am. the. ultimate.
I got George Washington
Lee for me as well.
Regarding Wellington, the way he saw and wrote about himself and the way he is regarded by history are somewhat different, naturally. :beam:
Patton for me. No surprise there.
Another Patton.
Ha, George Washington. :beam:
Omar Bradley
teddy roosevelt
Patton. :2thumbsup:
For all you Bradley's out there, question... the only difference between the Bradley model and the Patton model was whether you consider it appropriate to conduct your own negotiations, or you would consult a diplomat from the state department or some such.
Do you really think it's advisable to have military generals drawing up long term peace treaties without external inputs? Doesn't that put the whole notion of an army controlled by a civilian population back on its heels a bit?
Maybe; but wouldn't we discuss that in the friendly, neighborhood backroom?
We're talking about negotiating the surrender of enemy troops in a specific sector, not talking about negotiating the surrender of a whole country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Fair point, but the question was about terms of surrender in a sector, not a long term peace treaty. I always thought terms of local surrenders were decided by the generals on the ground ("unconditional surrender" by Grant, for example). But maybe with modern communications and politics, that is no longer true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
The outline conditions for the ceasefire - protect the enemy general's family and keep out of the religious sites - seemed sensible and unobjectionable.
By contrast, a few things in the the Patton option put me off. Preparing to resume offensive operations, including attacking the religious sites seemed overly aggressive (truly Pattonesque). But conversely, suspending operations while waiting for the State Department to do something seemed not aggressive enough (maybe the enemy are stalling for time or will rethink or listen to their bellicose politicians...). In fact, I'd be more inclined to get the politicians to authorise a suspension of operations than to negotiate a surrender - it seems a bigger step.
My Napoleonic thinking allowed me to not hurt or occupy religious or cultural sites as long as the enemy surrendered unconditionally. :laugh4:
Didn't Napoleon blow the nose off the Sphinx for target practice with his cannons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakizashi
Omar Bradley. I can live with that.
I think you will find the nose fell off when Obelix the Gaul was climbing on it.Quote:
Didn't Napoleon blow the nose off the Sphinx for target practice with his cannons?
The Sphinx hasn't been a cultural symbol for Egyptians since the rise of Islam, well... a prominent one. Plus, its not like its a mosque or anything...
I got George S. Patton which surprised me.
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Dwight D. Eisenhower!
Lord Horatio Nelson? :juggle2: Never heard of 'em.
Lee here - though, it was close to being Clark - depending on whether I decided to meet and greet my men first...