Who do you think you are?!

Got a german friend who brags about how his ancestors burned Rome? Or a greek mate who idolises Alexandros, Achilles and other Greek warriors? Well heres a point i wanna put forward: how do you even know you have anything to do with them?!
Considering how, after the fall of Rome, we have no written records of marriages until the middle ages, we have no way of knowing who we really are! The Vandals passed through France, Spain and the coast of North Africa, so some of the 'spaniards, portugese' and other people could be less rooted to their own country than they may think! as an italian, i wonder if maybe one of my ancestors was a goth, gaul or even hun, considering how my grandfather came from the north of italy, and has blue eyes and fair hair. my grandmother came from the south, but for all i know she was a greek wanna-be! any thoughts on who YOU are?

go back far enough, and we're all africans. ~:)

in any case, this doesn't really belong in the EB forums.

My written ancestry can be traced back about 6 generations to Calabria, in southern Italy. Beyond that, I can see your point. I could be descended from native Calabrian Italians, or Greek settlers to southern Italy or most likely an eventual mix of both, maybe with some Roman blood. I doubt my family line was touched by barbaric blood though, as my skin is dark, my eyes brown and my hair black. This could be the possible effects of Carthaginian blood as well. In short, it seems impossible to be absolutely certain of anything, considering written records of ancestry can rarely, if ever, be traced all the way back to EB times. This is why I never use the line "my people conquered half the world" which is a line many Italians like to use, even though they probably have no Roman connection.

DNA testing friends

My great uncle times 124 was Alexander the Great :yes:

I have deduced this from the fact that I like horsies....Alexander, in fact, rode horsies. The connection should be blatantly obvious. :yes:

Meh. I don't even know my own family history beyond two-three generations back, nor do I care a hoot. I also insist on getting them facts straight to my countrymen who have mistaken and exaggerated ideas about some tidbits of history (eg. Hakkapeliitat), mind you...

Being half-English and half-Calabrese i probably have ancestors of Celtic, Saxon, Norman, Greek, Roman, and God-Knows-What-Else has settled in those countries over the centuries. It hurts my head to think about it.:dizzy2:

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This is why I never use the line "my people conquered half the world" which is a line many Italians like to use.

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Heh I love that line..... Though pretty much everyone in the world today can claim that and be right....

I live in Holland my village name sounds very German (Sassenheim) in the very beginning it was called Saksenheim= Home of the Saxons)

So i think i would probably a bear warrior:laugh4:

I think I am myself. Am I right? :inquisitive:

I would probably be a Druhtiz Skandzisku, as I am of northern germanic heritage. :smash:

Hmm makes me wonder, if people in the far future will make an EB mod, about us fellows in the 21:th century, and people will figure what kind of unit their ancestors were. :laugh4:

Going back to 1830, my family comes from Britain and then migrated to Australia. Some didn't so much migrate as were... Deported? I am guessing most of my blood is Anglo-Saxon.

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Originally Posted by Bootsiuv

My great uncle times 124 was Alexander the Great :yes:

I have deduced this from the fact that I like horsies....Alexander, in fact, rode horsies. The connection should be blatantly obvious. :yes:

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My name is Phillip, my middle name is Alexander, does that mean we're distant relatives ?
And I love horses too ! Man's greatest conquest

my grand dad's side is from Zangezur, part of Armenia that withstood Persians and Turks for centuries. my grand mother's side is from Artsakh, another Armenian citadel that wouldnt kneel and is still desputed to this very day... as far back as i can trace all of my ancestory is exclusively Armenian. obviously i cant trace as far back as EB's timeline goes:laugh4: i have a friend who has its all written down to 16th century. they were deported to Persia but returned to Eastern, Russian Armenia with the end of Russian - Persian war.

Saying that someone descends just from one ancient nation is stupid.
Think a little.
Two generations before you, your grandfathers. 4 people. Three generations, 8 people. 100 generations back, 2**100 ancestors. Try to find where everyone lived.:sweatdrop:

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Saying that someone descends just from one ancient nation is stupid.
Think a little.
Two generations before you, your grandfathers. 4 people. Three generations, 8 people. 100 generations back, 2**100 ancestors. Try to find where everyone lived.:sweatdrop:

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Not if you follow the line of your fathers father and his father etc..

My family line goes up to 1625 AC and from from 1816 till 1620 they all lived in the same villages except for there sisters and wifes

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Going back to 1830, my family comes from Britain and then migrated to Australia. Some didn't so much migrate as were... Deported? I am guessing most of my blood is Anglo-Saxon.

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Considering how many Jacobites were deported to Australia, its more likely to be Celtic blood.

I'm an Aussie, but all my ancestors are from the British Isles, mostly Irish. I guess I'm descended from "Celtic" types, although thats a loose term at the best of times.

I have a mate who's Greek, born near Pella. His grandparents were all Pontian Greeks so he feels a strong "Byzantine" heritage ie mixed Black Sea genes.

Looking at him he doesn't have a clasdsic greek profile in fact he often gets mistaken for Persian or Spanish. I reckon he's got a good dash of Pontian blood from the Persians.

After a few drinks we'll start enlarging on the acheivements of our putative ancestors (all in good fun of course, nationalism is bulldust to our ears). he'll wax lyrical about Greek Civilisation and Macedonian conquest. He'll even crack a joke about the Irish wearing dresses. My response is always the same: the Greeks never conquered Ireland, but the Celts over-ran Macedonia.:2thumbsup:

In EB terms I'm one of those hammer weilding Goidels, not the elite armoured ones but the regulation nut-crackers with the hammers.

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I'm an Aussie, but all my ancestors are from the British Isles, mostly Irish. I guess I'm descended from "Celtic" types, although thats a loose term at the best of times.

I have a mate who's Greek, born near Pella. His grandparents were all Pontian Greeks so he feels a strong "Byzantine" heritage ie mixed Black Sea genes.

Looking at him he doesn't have a clasdsic greek profile in fact he often gets mistaken for Persian or Spanish. I reckon he's got a good dash of Pontian blood from the Persians.

After a few drinks we'll start enlarging on the acheivements of our putative ancestors (all in good fun of course, nationalism is bulldust to our ears). he'll wax lyrical about Greek Civilisation and Macedonian conquest. He'll even crack a joke about the Irish wearing dresses. My response is always the same: the Greeks never conquered Ireland, but the Celts over-ran Macedonia.:2thumbsup:

In EB terms I'm one of those hammer weilding Goidels, not the elite armoured ones but the regulation nut-crackers with the hammers.

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My ancestors were Voinu cannibals living in modern-day Belarus. I'm sure about that, oh yes :p.

Part spain-syrian for mom side.

Russian for dad side both grandmother and grandfather.


so I'm sure I'm mostly russian cuz I dont think Russia was the greatest vacation destination for other peoples around the world.

I'm a mogrel through and through mainly English and Malay decent but throw a spattering of Portugese and French, although living in Australia I was lucky enough not to be bred from convicts :laugh4:

I find this topic interesting, mostly because people seem so sure of their ancestry.

For example, my father is 100% Greek (his father came over here from Crete), and my mother is 100% French (her grandfather came over from France).

In reality though, I find it hard to believe that in the past 2000 years, there wasn't a dude from asia minor in there, or a dude from egypt, or maybe one of my mom's ancestors married a dude from britian.

My point is that there is no way in hell that anyone of us is full blooded anything. Nations do not exist in bubbles. Immigration and Emmigration happen every day.

Not only that, but I found out my last name is also very popular in Turkey. How does my dad know he isn't 100% turkish. You never really know. We're all friggin mutts, some more than others.

I'm German, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsch, and Italian. My great-uncle traced the german part back to the early 19th century. However he traced the english part back to the 12th century.

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go back far enough, and we're all africans. ~:)

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Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.

Please do.

What's the alternative...Genesis? Pfft. No, I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong I believe in a higher power, but I like to think of it like a top.....He set it spinning, and since then, it's gone on it's own momentum. He observes IMO. There is no direct interference.

*wonders what he just started*

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Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.

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please do, im at work and need a good laugh

Nothing the Backroom hasn't covfered millions of times in the past. Look at some of the threads started by Navaros if you are interested.

Yeah, I know, but I still things its a bunch of hogwash....

Evolution is logical and obvious IMO.

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Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.

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God doesn't exist. Incredible how ID'ers try to replace proven scientific fact with faith and lies, the biggest lie being the complete reliance upon an invisible and unproven Hebrew fairy tale.

And such discussions don't belong here.

I don't see the harm in it....it's relevant to the thread, I suppose.

If anything, the entire thread doesn't belong in here.

As long as the fundies don't make my stocks fall they can do whatever they want . I doubt they could get the 75% to change the constitution as well .


As you can see I let profits come first before my atheistic beliefs . Hell I'm willing to ditch them if I could make money off of it .

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As long as the fundies don't make my stocks fall they can do whatever they want . I doubt they could get the 75% to change the constitution as well .


As you can see I let profits come first before my atheistic beliefs . Hell I'm willing to ditch them if I could make money off of it .

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You can get a lot of money if you're a popular fundie preacher, you see. Doesn't require much brain neither good sense to become one.

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As long as the fundies don't make my stocks fall they can do whatever they want . I doubt they could get the 75% to change the constitution as well .


As you can see I let profits come first before my atheistic beliefs . Hell I'm willing to ditch them if I could make money off of it .

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But you would still be an atheist, just a far more cynical one...

What can I say, I'm Icelandic, live on an island that was settled 874 A.D When most people where scribbling in latin we used Icelandic as written language and I can still read it...heck I can even understand many of the Sweboz unit names, and because the icelanders were prolific writers most people can trace their ancestors way back . I can probably trace my ancestry to settlers that arrived from Norway.

Yup we're pretty inbred here

That's great! I've heard that most Icelanders can still read the Edda?

I am German, and I'm 99% sure my ancestors fought alongside Arminius in the Teutoburger Wald. Yeah! When I die, I'll see them again in Walhalla at Odin's (Wodanaz') table, drinking and laughing and fighting at his side in eternity...

Icelandic wasn't written until somewhere around the 12th-14th century, despite stories dating to the Viking Age... but it is an awesome language I must admit. Latin is entirely overrated as well ~;) (says one who doesn't know it but would like to).

I am Celto-Germanic, and my surname has '-son' so I know I have at least a little bit Norweigan in me ('-sen' in Danish and Swedish if ya got it)... similarly anyone with an '-ing' or '-ung' name has the same Germanic 'son of' ending... did y'all know that names like Washington are funny though, since '-ton' means town ~:) so he could say, hey, i'm a town!

Interesting. We learn new things every day.

I have an uncle who researches this kind of thing. Apparently, my line can be traced directly back to Sir James the Good (or "The Black Douglas" as the English knew him) of Scotland.:book:

If you go back a little further, my great grandfather⁷⁶ was, in fact, a monkey.:idea2:

ooh! ooh! ah! ah!

Im descended from Scottish stock my family came over to New Zealand on one the first four boats (the fourth one "Randalph") in 1850 to Christchurch. Im pretty sure an almost direct ancestor of mine was the Earl of Kilmarnock during the Jacobite uprising apparently he screwed up and was killed. We have his sword somewhere.

I'll have to ask my Grandpa again, I cant remember it all too well.

My father's family are almost entirely Blackfoot and Lakota; my mother's are Clan MacGregor.

Don't know where that puts me Europe-wise about 2000 years ago, but I'm pretty confident my father's ancestors were still on the Great Plains, or thereabouts.

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I have records of my paternal (9 generations) and maternal (7 generations) ancestors. They are all Muslim Turks, as far as the religion and language goes. However, I doubt if I have any more mongol gene than the average joe in the vicinity.

My mother is from Pontos. Her long ancestors were most probably local converts, or a mixture of them and the post-1461 settlers. My father's roots, from all male line, go back to modern day Armenia and Azerbaijan. Interestingly, their old family (or maybe clan?) name is in use in today Armenia (with the usual -yan addition), so there might be some grain of Hayasdan soil in my mix. My paternal grandmother's all recorded ancestors were native to Istanbul, with a certain exception from Skopje. My father's paternal grandmother was most probably Circassian, though she had remembered a few Kurdish words. However, her homeland was with predominantly Circassian and Turkish population and she probably learned the Kurdish words in her husband's residence, Diyarbekir...

In short, I'm a happy soup! :chef: The wider the gene pool the better. Makes such great innovative genius minds yet humblest beings as I am! :laugh4:
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From what I know, I'm basicly 50% Irish, 50% Scottish, though there is talk of a spanish woman being somewhere in the family way back. But at the end of the day I'm British by birth and English by the grace of God! :laugh4:

I really want to get DNA tested sometime, it's fascinating! :2thumbsup:

wow set this thread up over night and its packed tight as hell!
anyone who says this thread isnt relevant to EB...erm...you can guess what lands your ancestors lived in? (oh im so smooth)

I dont know about me, but I have a friend that knows that is family comes from one Scotland royal family that have ancestry with Tutakamon's wife or something like that... Proved by genealogical trees studing. :dizzy2:

The only reason I'm not going to reply to any of the "creationism vs evolution theory" posts, is because most people don't understand the basis such a discussion needs: mutual respect. Stop screaming the other is wrong and you are right, but have a decent discussion instead.

I'd say: keep it out of here, we're discussing EB.

So, with that said, my ancestors from my mom's sides migrated to the Netherlands from near Kassel in Germany in the 17th century. They mingled with the gypsies they traveled with no doubt. Would explain my (and my mom's) dark hair and eyes. I have no idea whatsoever where my dad's family comes from, although he's from the Limburg province in the Netherlands himself. Dark hair and eyes as well, perhaps French blood. Vive la France!

But nothing Celtic, of course. All Germanic blood, perhaps mingled with whatever Roman blood there was left. I dunno. Wouldn't mind being French myself. But proud to be Dutch, too. ;)

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('-sen' in Danish and Swedish if ya got it)...

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Hi Blitz, are you sure '-sen' is Swedish? Just wondering, because the majority up here has surnames which ends with '-son' (like Petersson, Eriksson...). My ancestors from my fathers side had 'Jönsson' as surname and that was in the 16:th century.

As a sidequestion, you being good at germanic words and all that. My surname is 'Sandstedt'. Does 'stedt' comes from the german word 'Stadt' (or perhaps the Swedish word 'Stad')?

As far as I could trace my German ancestors back, they all lived in the deep West of Germany, and, on a footnote, were all either working for the resp. state or the Chruch. For the American branch, I only know that they were Texan and the name sounds (South-)German.

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As a sidequestion, you being good at germanic words and all that. My surname is 'Sandstedt'. Does 'stedt' comes from the german word 'Stadt' (or perhaps the Swedish word 'Stad')?

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"Stadt" comes from "Stätte", as far as I know. So the conection to "Stedt" is evident (ä is spelled similar to e).

I have absolutely no idea who my ancestors were - I'm English, dammit :laugh4:

If use father's line (whom I haven't seen since :dizzy: year), perhaps my ancestors live in ... desert! :laugh4: Something like middle-east. :inquisitive:

But mine culture is 100% russian.:russia: :grin2:

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Hi Blitz, are you sure '-sen' is Swedish? Just wondering, because the majority up here has surnames which ends with '-son' (like Petersson, Eriksson...). My ancestors from my fathers side had 'Jönsson' as surname and that was in the 16:th century.

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Indeed. Many Norwegian and Danish surnames, however, ends with -sen. Never heard of a Norwegian -son who hasn't married into a Swedish family, nor a Swedish -sen that hasn't done the opposite. I'd like to know if Blitzkrieg just mixed us up, or if there is some deeper conspiracy going on up here. :sweatdrop:

I myself am supposedly 1% Russian, 10% Sami and 89% Swedish. Both my parent's families hails from up there in the North, and that's where my ancestors lived too - at least as far back as we could track.

My family is one of those interesting blends of Africans, Europeans, and Native Americans that you can find in Mississippi. My dad is partly descended from an English family who came to Maryland during the 1600s whose descent can be traced to an Angle tribe called Varini, also I have a Cherokee grandmother....my mom has part Swedish (I think that Sudduth is Swedish) and black. I've never managed to trace my ancestory back to Africa but it is very likely somewhere in the NW regions.

you know what, I made a mistake ~:doh: for some reason I assumed that Swedish followed the same East Norse morphological development as Danish... it's interesting that Norweigan has both -sen and -son, which is not helpful ~:) and of course the naming system only applies to the language and does not dynamically change according to location of that person ~;) although American bastardization of a name is a good indicator of travel here

Dutch supposedly uses -sen too... so there's no way to tell is the point, other than Germanic at one point in time

stedt would be as commented, "place" or "standing," "opportunity" or "harbor"... although it could easily not be derived from either modern languages (but cognate), ultimately from ProtoGermanic stēnan 'to stand' or 'be', with cognates in Latin sistō, Old Irish at-táu, Lithuanian stóti, Slavic *stati 'to become' and other Indo-European languages.

The only pure blood I have in me is 1/4 Swedish, from my mother's mother. The rest is mostly English with some French and German mixed in there.

The only thing I know about my distant relatives is that one of my relatives was in the Colonial Army and deserted during the winter at Valley Forge. :shame:

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stedt would be as commented, "place" or "standing," "opportunity" or "harbor"... although it could easily not be derived from either modern languages (but cognate), ultimately from ProtoGermanic stēnan 'to stand' or 'be', with cognates in Latin sistō, Old Irish at-táu, Lithuanian stóti, Slavic *stati 'to become' and other Indo-European languages.

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Wow, alot of different meanings there. :beam: Thank's!

Hmmm Bartixian, definately Bartixian.

Like most people of English descent I'd say I'm mostly Anglo-Saxon with some other minor Germanic/Celtic influences thrown in at some point.

I'm in the genographic project, and my earliest tracable male ancestor came the steppe way to Germany. Wich may mean that his descendants came North to Scandinavia when ice melted, or they went to England and was later enslaved by Vikings, or they stayed in Germany and came later to trade (unlikely, as my family were farmers).

It's been a while since I last checked on that, though.

It seems I remembered wrong. According to the map I was shown, it seems that ancestors of me were Indo-European, and came from the steppes just 10,000 years ago. I think that's cool, but being a descendant of early hunters in Scandinavia would also be cool, so I'd "win" anyway. The map is confusing though, as one line stretches almost into balticum, and then makes a sharp turn and ends up near the Aral sea. But there is also other lines, like one that ends up in India and one that appearently gave rise to most of the first Americans and Siberian peoples.

I have relatives everywhere!

Almost noone here of pure blood? I can trace my ancestry back to 1600 and something, and Im nothing but Norwegian. May be because my mom and dad are both from an island out in the Norwegian sea, where everybody is related. Butt hell, I get laid:)

For many Americans (at least for me) it's hard to tell. I know my maternal grandfater was from germany, but I've heard once that his parents were from italy and france. Beyond that, we don't know (he was adopted to American rednecks. How unlikely is that?). My maternal grandmother and paternal grandparents have both been in America for the longest time, as far as I know. I've heard speak of Irish blood, and probably some Native American blood aswell, but that's about as definitive as it gets.


Does anyone know what 'Paden' means? It seems to me to be one of the more rare last names. Almost noone outside of my family seems to have it, and noone seems to know what it means! I'm convinced it's more recent and someone just tried to make up their last name to confuse everybody, or run away from the law or something (well, not really convinced. Just made that up just now. I have no idea where it comes from.)

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Does anyone know what 'Paden' means? It seems to me to be one of the more rare last names. Almost noone outside of my family seems to have it, and noone seems to know what it means! I'm convinced it's more recent and someone just tried to make up their last name to confuse everybody, or run away from the law or something (well, not really convinced. Just made that up just now. I have no idea where it comes from.)

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First hit on Google. Hth :bow:
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I'm english so just about everything is in there!

Aren't alloys supposed to be paticularly flexible?

I could have sworn I checked that site before; must be a more recent entry.

EDIT: Or maybe not. Ah, well. :juggle2:

I was born in post-Vietnam era Germany (Schweinfurt, Oberfranken, Bayern), so I definitely don't know my full geneological ancestry. ( by the 1970s the area in which I was born had recorded occurences of Turkish, American, Czech ...and that's just recently...earlier on, Bohemians -mixed Czech, German, and Polish ancestry there- Swedish, French -thanks to Gustavus Adolphus and Napoleon Bonaparte- and skipping a whole millenium or so, Gothic, Vandal, Hunnic, Sauromatae, Roxolann, Alan-basically any ethnicity that appeared in Attila's army could show up)


sooooooo......I'm a Heinz '57 and proud

Im from Puerto Rico.
If anyone tries to tell my Im anything but Puertorro I tell em to **** off.
Seriously, If I tried to trace my ancestry back to the EB timeline I'd end up everywhere from Afrika to Ireland to Germania.

I have -ez as a suffix in my last name, so that indicates a germanic influence (visigoths, perhaps?), one of my last names (if I take the trouble to trace them all) is Arana, which is , supposedly, Irish.
and every Puerto Rican has some African and Taino blood (miniscule amounts).
There is also the fact that muslims controlled more than half of Spain for several centuries.

Frag this, Im getting a headache.