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Announcement: Debates in the Gahzette
Good day to all of you Backroomers.
The editor and I would like to try to do a monthly piece in the Gahzette where two of you would compete against each other in the art of debate.
The purpose of this thread is to firstly make an invitation to those of you who would be interested in participating and secondly to ask for good topics in debate.
So, who would be interested in participating and what topics should be debated?
Post either your interest in participation or a topic you would love seen being debated… or both.
There will be a panel of three referees who will determine the outcome and announce a winner in each debate.
The process of organising this debate has started and hopefully it will make the December issue of the Gahzette.
The Panel of referees will consist of me, sapi and one of you.
I am putting up the lists of topics and participants in this post and you can monitor it to check how things are progressing.
We have as of now the following proposed topics:
Abortion
Gun Rights/ Gun Control
Global Warming; man made or not?
What to do in Iraq?
The Israel – Palestinian conflict
int. peacekeeping operations
Socialised medicine
Smoking ban: yes or no?
Halo3
The members who have been willing to participate are:
Kamikhaan [What to do in Iraq? - xx]
Crazed Rabbit [Hand guns- pro] - Debate finished
{BHC}KingWarman888 [Gun control - pro?]
Beirut [socialised medicine - pro]
Inca [Global warming - yes]
RoadKill [Global warming - no, War in Afghanistan -xx]
Kukrikhan [any subject]
Bopa the Magyar [The Israel – Palestinian conflict – xx]
Louis VI The Fat [THE WALLOON MINORITY IN BELGIUM - flemish nationalist] - Debate in process
Waldinger [Hand guns - against] - Debate in finished
Andres [THE WALLOON MINORITY IN BELGIUM - francophobe] - Debate in process
Decker [the palestinian conflict - xx]
Don Corleone [any subject]
Bopa the Magyar [the palestinian conflict - xx]
Jimbob [Does God exist? - theist]
Sigurd Fafnesbane [Does God exist? - theist] (stepping in for Jimbob) - proposition is written and ready for submitting.
The - xx is an indication that no angle for discussion is defined.
What we need are more participants and the topics they would like to debate. We would like to pair opposing views in a debate so an indication on which side you would like to debate would be appreciated.
Sigurd (Gahzette)
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Abortion. :wink:
But, seriously, this sounds good, I'd love to read this in the gahzette when/if done.
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I'd like to see Tribesman against one of the Americans.
:book: :dizzy2: :idea2: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :smash: :whip: :wall: :wall: :laugh4: :laugh4: :help:
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I second Pann
tho Fragony tends to be "amusing" as well :bounce:
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I'd like to see Tribesman against one of the Americans.
Firstly I don't do debates , I just rip the piss . Secondly "one of the a Americans" is very broad category , one could even say it is a generalisation .
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Firstly I don't do debates , I just rip the piss . Secondly "one of the a Americans" is very broad category , one could even say it is a generalisation .
It's not the debate that amuses me, but their reaction to you, and most of them, with one or two exceptions, react the same way.
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I wouldn't call saying bollox debating either, I'll give you that
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Hmmm... :prods DevDave into spotlight:.
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I wouldn't call saying bollox debating either, I'll give you that
ah well that would be debateable .
It is a word that sums up much and is a clear and absolute response to the content of someone elses statement .
It also happens to be the word that one of our poltical party leaders over here says is his favourite word to use in debates in the Dail .
So since it is used by leaders of the opposition and by our "illustrious" leader in debates concerning the government of this country it appears that either you have just lost the debate or I just ripped the piss out of the content of your post ...or perhaps both .:2thumbsup:
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Rabbit v JAG on Gun rights/gun contol.
Who'll stand as seconds? :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Rabbit v JAG on Gun rights/gun contol.
Who'll stand as seconds? :laugh4:
Seconded
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Like an actual debate? Sure, I'm willing to go.
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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Rabbit v JAG on Gun rights/gun contol.
Who'll stand as seconds? :laugh4:
I'm down.
Seriously, I wouldn't mind doing a gun rights debate with someone.
Other fun topics (not for me) might include Global Warming; man made or not?
What to do in Iraq?
And for lots of fun: The Israel-Palestinian conflict.
CR
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Originally Posted by CR
And for lots of fun: The Israel-Palestinian conflict.
Give me a front-row ticket to see that one!
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I'm done for a Gun Control Debate, but that about it I will do. :yes:
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Ok, it's CR vs. Warman over gun control...
So warman takes the contra gun control side and CR... :laugh4:
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If there's a Tony Blair, genius or madman? debate, who on Earth can we ask to be the proposer? :laugh4:
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So I'm guessing this will be Cross-Examination style of debate with an affirmative side (w/burden of proof) and the negative side(stat quo) that will be 5 rounds (each round consists of one side proving their case or refuting/backing up their case) long with a period of cx between sides. And the last round being the summation round? Are you going to have topicality blocks or shells to test the validity of the subject? And they said I never paid attention in debate class...take that Mr. Ramsden.
Edit:as for the topic, I would like to see a gun control debate. My team didn't do very well with that topic but we kicked some UN butt w/ the topic about intl. peacekeeping operations
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
And for lots of fun: The Israel-Palestinian conflict.
CR
Can I bring George & Martha to watch? :hide:
If there's one on socialized medicine, I'd be happy to take the communist, I mean socialized point of view.
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Originally Posted by Beirut
If there's one on socialized medicine, I'd be happy to take the communist, I mean socialized point of view.
If ever there is a need for a commie...
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What about the globalization? I would want to be on that one!
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Originally Posted by Beirut
Can I bring George & Martha to watch? :hide:
If there's one on socialized medicine, I'd be happy to take the communist, I mean socialized point of view.
They'd have to be muzzled. No comments from the peanut gallery! ~;p
CR
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You people are boring.
Popular topics are already popular, no need to waste Gahzette space on something like that. Debate about something craaazy or fun instead, yeesh. :shame:
...
:wacky:
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Tribes vs sfts
roswell incident
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Originally Posted by Rythmic
Hmmm... :prods DevDave into spotlight:.
Unfortunately they probably won't allow my :daisy: retort. :no:
EDIT: Correct Dave, I won't. BG :grin:
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Zionism's conquest of Palestine would be my choice.
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Originally Posted by HoreTore
If ever there is a need for a commie...
Hehe, I would pay to see HoreTore vs anyone on a Socialist topic.
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Originally Posted by CountArach
Hehe, I would pay to see HoreTore vs anyone on a Socialist topic.
Horetore vs Ice
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Now there is a matchup I would want to see!
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I have started updating the opening post with the proposed topics and the members who are interested in participating.
We haven't made an absolute decision on how the mechanics will be in this.
What we would like is an opening statement from both participants stating their view (affirmative). This would be their proposition that underlines their view and why.
In round two there will be a chance for them to make comments on the opponent’s proposition. I guess the panel will decide who goes first. The first out will make comments on his/her opponents opening statement and the second out will have the chance to make comments on both his/her opponents opening statement and the opponent’s comments to his/her opening statement. We were thinking of a max 3 rounds, and whether this includes the concluding statement will be clear when we start this.
I doubt this will make it to the November issue of the Gahzette. But we plan for a great Christmas issue.
Many here mention the debate they would like to see. That is ok, but I can’t put up candidates other than those who have committed to participate. As of now there are only 3 members who has made the commitment.
The Debate I would have liked to see would have been Pindar vs. A.Saturnus on Does God exist? That would be a classical.
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Maybe the debate system could be same kind as they have in TWC, a fightclub. The system works in a way where a Orgah would challenge another one in debating duel.I think it would be interesting read, since if someone wants to debate with certain named other individual, usually they dont share the same opinion about the subject.:smash:
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I would like to participate, but preferbly about Global Warming. Is fake
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updated...
For those whom I have listed with a topic. It would be nice if you made clear what side you would argue...
Thanks.
Any more takers?
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This should be good :yes:
Topics: anything but global warming, really...
maybe add "smoking ban: yes or no?" to the list, too ~;)
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Originally Posted by Husar
Ok, it's CR vs. Warman over gun control...
So warman takes the contra gun control side and CR... :laugh4:
I am Pro Gun, I think Guns should be allowed in Society. :beam:
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To clarify; yes, I'd be pro-gun rights/anti-gun control.
CR
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Really? I had no idea. :wink:
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I know, it's a bit of a surprise, but I'd thought I'd mix it up a bit.
:beam:
CR
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
To clarify; yes, I'd be pro-gun rights/anti-gun control.
You...you are? ~:confused:
Thanks for clarifying, would never have guessed otherwise. ~D
I think the debators should step out of their usual roles. Not their opinions, but their debating prowess is at stake, no?
I suggest:
DevDave defending that 'The maltreatment of illegal Mexican immigrants is against the best interests of the USA'.
Fragony pointing out the 'Five Blessings, or Pillars, of the Multicultural Dream'.
For an ooponent, we want somebody who usually agrees with Fragony on most subjects. So I suggest Tribesy.
JAG 'Marx was a pseudo-scientific Charlatan'. Against, er...do we have any self-proclaimed anti-communists? No, wait. Pit the extreme lefties against one another, let's have a seventies style Marxism-Leninism pwns Trotskism-Luxemburgism and your Maoism-Bakuninism. JAG vs Idaho vs HoreTore.
Banquo's Ghost - 'The future is Middle Class'.
InsaneApache. Naturally, there can be only one topic: 'Not since the End of WWII has Britain Heaved such a Sigh of Relief as with the Long-Awaited Departure of Bolton Wanderers back into the Championship'.
*Let's hear others!*
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Pit the extreme lefties against one another, let's have a seventies style Marxism-Leninism pwns Trotskism-Luxemburgism and your Maoism-Bakuninism. JAG vs Idaho vs HoreTore.
That is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
updated...
For those whom I have listed with a topic. It would be nice if you made clear what side you would argue...
Thanks.
Any more takers?
IF there are no other volunteers to do so, for the purposes of furthering this effort to show off before the rest of the Org, the Backroomers' ability to fully examine and thoroughly debate any topic,
I put my name forward to provide an opposing voice to any proposition.
I'd rather see a non-staffer do this, but if Backroomers are shy, maybe I can humbly show the way. It's not about glory or shame, fellas, it's about showing the rest of the Org what we do back here - this place can pick apart every tiny nuance of a problem, hold it up to scrutiny, then put it back in its place in the bigger picture. We do this every day and week. Let's show the rest what we're proud of.
[/pep talk] :laugh4:
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Oh alright then. For the glory of showing the rest of the .org what Backroom intellect is capable of, I shall cross wits with Kukrikhan on the proposition 'Halo 3 has teh awesomest graffix ever seen in gamewarez!!1!1woot!!'.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Oh alright then. For the glory of showing the rest of the .org what Backroom intellect is capable of, I shall cross wits with Kukrikhan on the proposition 'Halo 3 has teh awesomest graffix ever seen in gamewarez!!1!1woot!!'.
Wait...
I've only got 1 wit. Can I borrow someone's?
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Originally Posted by KukriKhan
Wait...
I've only got 1 wit. Can I borrow someone's?
I'll give you mine if you make me a moderator.:yes:
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I'll give you RoadKill's if you make me a Moderator.
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I'll do the one regarding what to be done in Iraq, though to make it a pro/con case, there would have to be a specific plan of action proposed, which would become the subject of the pro/con discussion.
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Actually Iraq could let you do a sort of panel thing, where you have someone who represents each of the following:
1. We need more troops in Iraq
2. What we have is fine and we should stay there
3. We should have a timetable for withdraw
4. We should leave now.
Or something like that.
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In a few weeks I might be willing to discuss Israel's policies thus far in the occupied territories.
Any one interested?
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I think the debators should step out of their usual roles. Not their opinions, but their debating prowess is at stake, no?
We did that a bit last year, I think, people taking the contrary opinion. After a page or two some of the members were getting really weirded out and asked for it to stop. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
In a few weeks I might be willing to discuss Israel's policies thus far in the occupied territories.
Any one interested?
I'd like to see Pannonian on that one.
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I would also like to debate the war in Afganistan, my point of view: Get the hell out.
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poteen says argue on any subject for or against anythimng (apart from hglobal wrming )...though after tonight I might want to take socialised medicine off the list as wel ....though I might form new views over breakfast as I don't hink one ofmy guests is gonna rest onthe subject and her views will take some seriusr eflctioons against wha I had previously consideres
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Tribes... are you okay? I've never seen you type that poorly.
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In my debate class....
We have 2 groups, and a resolution.
One group is Pro
Second group is Neg
The resolution would go something like...
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This house believes that all that glitters isn't gold
Now, the Pro group defines
House - U.S. Government
all that glitters - Taxes
gold - shouldn't be raise
so it would read
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The United States Government believes that taxes shouldn't be raised
Then the Pro defines
1.Judging Criteria
Taxes should not be raised.
Pro has to come up with a plan to prevent a tax increase, while neg tries to point out flaws and either come up with a counter-plan or say that the status quo is acceptable.
Do I need to clarify?
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Originally Posted by CountArach
Tribes... are you okay? I've never seen you type that poorly.
He's drunk again.
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Count , the reason is in the 4th word , bloody visitors , at least it sent them to bed in oblivion:2thumbsup: Normally its only for Christmas and funerals .
edit...was drunk again , a bit of soakage turns drunk into not quite sober .
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Originally Posted by Pannonian
He's drunk again.
I assumed so.
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Maybe the debate system could be same kind as they have in TWC, a fightclub. The system works in a way where a Orgah would challenge another one in debating duel.I think it would be interesting read, since if someone wants to debate with certain named other individual, usually they dont share the same opinion about the subject.:smash:
I had a quick view at the fight club in TWC (thank you for the link Pannonian). I guess we could do something similar here. But I would have to persuade Tosa to make a subforum for it. For now we should try to get one or two going.
The obvious choices are:
Inca (it's happening)vs. RoadKill (it's not happening) on Global warming
Beirut (pro)vs. Kukrikhan (against)on socialised medicine
@Bopa the Magyar & kamikhaan: You have the opportunity to angle your topics any way you want and find an opponent.
@Marshal Murat: you seem to know a thing or two about debate. Would you be interested in participating?
Ok this will be the rules for this session:
One of the debates will make the december issue of the Gahzette (1000's of readers :yes: ).
This is a formal debate and you have to address the issue and not the persons arguing.
Every debate will start with an opening statement from both participants (300 - 400 words) outlining their view. Make sure you address your view and not why other views are false.
The debators will pm me these opening statements. I will then pm their opponent's opening statement. The first one to reach my pm box will go first and and make a reply to the opening statement. The next will have to wait for the opening statement and the first reply before making a reply. There will be another round of replies and then a closing remark before a panel of 3 will decide the outcome.
These debates will be known as (e.g.): the Beirut vs. Kukri on Socialised medicine. and hopefully recorded in a dedicated subforum to the Backroom for future reference.
Do we have a confirmation on the three proposed debates?
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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Beirut (pro)vs. Kukrikhan (against)on socialised medicine
But I like Kukrikhan. :embarassed:
How can I have glee in my heart when utterly destroying someone I respect? (Besides, Kukri is far too intelligent to believe in for-profit health care anyway. Is he stepping in because no one else will?)
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I won't debate tribesman.
I don't find the idea of getting involved in some farcical debate on semantics appealing.
Crazed Rabbit
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I won't debate tribesman.
I don't find the idea of getting involved in some farcical debate on semantics appealing.
Crazed Rabbit
Care to dance with me on communism in the medical field if Kukri isn't really in to it? :evil:
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Maybe I should debate with Tribesman about whether or not God exists. ~D
Or any other topic would be fine, but don't expect any sources, he refuses to give them and I have none. :laugh4:
Oh and we both like smileys. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
:yes:
Seriously, I'm out. :hide:
But the idea sounds interesting.
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I vote for the battle of the mods! :duel:
Should be legendary.
But does Kukri have any affinity with social darwinistic healthcare? Maybe CR would be the better sparring partner on this subject?
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Originally Posted by Beirut
Care to dance with me on communism in the medical field if Kukri isn't really in to it? :evil:
Well, I certainly haven't got the experience in that field that I've got on gun rights. I'm open to anyone else who wants to have a go at gun rights.
Eh? Eh? Now's the time what for all you 'civilized' folks to step up to the plate and put your money where your mouth is vis a vis your anti-gun opinions.
CR
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Well, I certainly haven't got the experience in that field that I've got on gun rights. I'm open to anyone else who wants to have a go at gun rights.
Eh? Eh? Now's the time what for all you 'civilized' folks to step up to the plate and put your money where your mouth is vis a vis your anti-gun opinions.
CR
I'm almost tempted, but I'll stick with my commie medicine topic I guess.
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300 - 400 word introduction?!! You have to remember that others have homework and assignments and projects and extra-curricular activities.
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Then they shouldn't sign up. That's what is stopping me - that and a complete lack of ideas about what to debate for.
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But I like Kukrikhan. :embarassed:
How can I have glee in my heart when utterly destroying someone I respect? (Besides, Kukri is far too intelligent to believe in for-profit health care anyway. Is he stepping in because no one else will?)
I like you too, my esteemed comrade. :)
Anytime, any place, any topic, any side. I'm happy to practice debating - it has been a long time. I still think our first debating effort would be best displayed by non-backroom staff.
That said, Sigurd Fafnesbane generously volunteered his time and effort to lead this project, and provide its administration. In respect of that, whatever he decides, I not only concur, but also wholeheartedly support that work, in any way he sees fit.
@Louis: I haven't forgotten; you 'n me, HALO3, in the right place, at the right time, mon ami. :)
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300 - 400 word introduction?!! You have to remember that others have homework and assignments and projects and extra-curricular activities.
If you can do it in less I would be impressed. (BTW OP is 337 words).
I would really like to see at least one debate playing out.
If that means a friendly match between Beirut and Kukri is the means to get this thing going then ...
I am expecting your introductions gentlemen.
I will be happy to go against you Husar on the Does God exsist if you dare... :beam: and you can choose which side you want to argue.
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I won't debate tribesman.
I didn't realise tribesmen was one of the subjects for debate .
Hey Pann when you wrote this...
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It's not the debate that amuses me, but their reaction to you
....was that one of the reactions you envisaged ?
Oh wellhttp://www.jilldaniels.com/Run%20Rabbit%20Run.htm
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You rest your case:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
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I don't find the idea of getting involved in some farcical debate on semantics appealing.
Now tell me Rabbit , your fondness for the second and the relevance you think it has . Wasn't all the discussions about what wording to use and all the alterations to the wording just about semantics , hasn't all discussion since then on the meaning and intent of the second been semantics ...lots and lots of talking about what the words mean eh , since beore it was passed right up until the present....funny how you can claim that it is clear and can only be interpreted one way .:dizzy2:
BTW Didn't you like the song ? it did have a gun in it :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
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Let's not derail the thread. :beadyeyes2:
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I would like to be involved in the debate, yes.
Also, rather than have opening statements for both sides, it go...
- Opening statements by Pro - Bring up points of discussion and sources
- Opening statements Against - Refute points and sources, bring up your arguments
- Rebuttal by Pro
- Rebuttal by Against
- Against Closing Statements - Argue your case, point out significant points
- Pro Closing Statements - Argue your case, and close the debate.
The first two statements reveals sources and their arguments that they have to use through the rest of the debate.
My idea was that we open a locked thread about Socialized medicine, and the two debaters. The two debaters pm the arguments to the judge, who posts them in the locked thread. The thread can go on until there is a decision by the panel of who the winner is.
At the end the reviews by the panel are submitted to the Gahzette, declaring the winner.
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Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
I would like to be involved in the debate, yes.
Also, rather than have opening statements for both sides, it go...
- Opening statements by Pro - Bring up points of discussion and sources
- Opening statements Against - Refute points and sources, bring up your arguments
- Rebuttal by Pro
- Rebuttal by Against
- Against Closing Statements - Argue your case, point out significant points
- Pro Closing Statements - Argue your case, and close the debate.
The first two statements reveals sources and their arguments that they have to use through the rest of the debate.
My idea was that we open a locked thread about Socialized medicine, and the two debaters. The two debaters pm the arguments to the judge, who posts them in the locked thread. The thread can go on until there is a decision by the panel of who the winner is.
At the end the reviews by the panel are submitted to the Gahzette, declaring the winner.
Yes, you have some good ideas and I bet you are better at this than I.
However, I feel that it would be better if both candidates had a go at actually putting forth their proposition without being distracted by his/her opponent’s proposition. That’s why I would like to have both propositions in before they start arguing against their opponent. If this means we need an extra round of replies, so be it.
If there is enough interest in this we might get a subforum for it and then we can play out your scenario with a locked thread and the mechanics you described.
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We have as of now the following proposed topics:
Abortion
Gun Rights/ Gun Control
Global Warming; man made or not?
What to do in Iraq?
The Israel – Palestinian conflict
int. peacekeeping operations
Socialised medicine
Smoking ban: yes or no?
Halo3
Does God exist?
The members who have been willing to participate are:
Kamikhaan [What to do in Iraq? - xx]
Crazed Rabbit [Gun control - pro]
{BHC}KingWarman888 [Gun control - pro?]
Beirut [socialised medicine - pro]
Inca [Global warming - yes]
RoadKill [Global warming - no, War in Afghanistan -xx]
Kukrikhan [any subject]
Bopa the Magyar [The Israel – Palestinian conflict – xx]
Louis VI The Fat [Halo3 – xx]
Sigurd Fafnesbane [Does God exist? - Yes/No]
Marshall Murat [any subject?]
The - xx is an indication that no angle for discussion is defined.
Alright fellow debaters, I hope your interest is still alive.
I would really like to get at least one of these going as a kick off. I am putting myself in the list to better the chances and I will debate the topic listed as a theist or an atheist.
Take a look at the list. These are those who are willing. Now is the time to make a challenge.
If any of you readers want to have a go against any of these, post your interest here.
There are some restrictions though.
Tribesman can’t challenge CR.
A staff member can’t be in the first debate.
If enough interest is apparent I bet we could make something like TWC’s fight club here. And btw… the TWC have a standing challenge against us. I feel we need to at least prove that we are capable to do our own thing before venturing outside our forum looking for fights.
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Re: Announcement: Debates in the Gahzette
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Originally Posted by Murat
I would like to be involved in the debate, yes.
Also, rather than have opening statements for both sides, it go...
1. Opening statements by Pro - Bring up points of discussion and sources
2. Opening statements Against - Refute points and sources, bring up your arguments
3. Rebuttal by Pro
4. Rebuttal by Against
5. Against Closing Statements - Argue your case, point out significant points
6. Pro Closing Statements - Argue your case, and close the debate.
The first two statements reveals sources and their arguments that they have to use through the rest of the debate.
My idea was that we open a locked thread about Socialized medicine, and the two debaters. The two debaters pm the arguments to the judge, who posts them in the locked thread. The thread can go on until there is a decision by the panel of who the winner is.
At the end the reviews by the panel are submitted to the Gahzette, declaring the winner.
I think we'll aim for a fully published version this time; and take a look at the threads idea at a later stage.
In addition, I'm very strongly of the opinion that both opening statements should be in the affirmative, so that's not really going to change.
Real life debating is a very different beast to this, and a clear statement of claim (not one put in the last few lines after rebutting the opposition argument for 350 words) is essential to highlighting the sort of fallacies that we're looking for.
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I want to Play with Tribes about Gun Control :beam:
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I'd like to see a debate between Gregoshi and Whacker about bad puns :grin:
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I am here for the chicks really
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Re: Announcement: Debates in the Gahzette
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Originally Posted by Fragony
I am here for the chicks really
The winners get the chicks.
What shall we debate, then? :evil: