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Let me report such minor glitches as the title says using this thread. ~:) Others are welcome to post here instead of cluttering the place with plenty of threads.
No major bugs here please! :stop:
- In my ongoing Lusotannan campaign (actually my first ever EB game ~D) there's this dock in my land, with a weird pop-up:
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8594/1700xw5.jpg
- A place holder is holding place in the building browser: :knight:
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3728/1701zt7.jpg
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The building browser is broken and useless in EB. For some reason it does not like the "and not" variable which is extensively used in the EB edb. We can't do anything about it.Quote:
A place holder is holding place in the building browser:
For Building information you should refer to the building trees made by JMRC,which are in the eb/documentation folder.
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Originally Posted by Bonny
Thanks. Nothing affecting my gameplay really. It was just there. ~;)
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So, what about the docks? ~:) Is it really a buglet or something intended that rests in ambush to surprise me when the time is ripe? :jumping:
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Well, the Lusotannan are expert ambushers and all... But I wouldn't worry much about the docks.
I'm not sure wether this is minor stuff, but I don't like to open a new thread:
1. As Ptolemaioi I cannot recruit Cretan Archers because the necessary level 1 or 2 government cannot be installed in Crete. I just copied the Cretan Archers to a barrack with a level 3 or 4 government to get them.
2. In Meroe I should be able to recruit bush elephants - that isat least what the ingame description of the MIC tells me. But the unit does not appear in the roster. I did not try to solve the problem because bush elephants were probably never used in warfare.
3. Ptolemaioi can recruit Indian longbowmen. The unit info however is missing, the friendly placeholder appears. I simply copied the unit info file from 0.81 into the 1.0 folder.
4. I would like to recruit Ethiopian warriors but cannot as Ptolemaioi, although the edu gives them to me. I think it's intention of the EB team to let the units only to Saba, to make them a bit exclusive.
But it's nice that you made all the preparations that other factions can have them too. I just had to copy them from Saba to my Ptolemaioi barracks.
EB 1.0 is great!
Minor issue/annoyance of mine:
In my Romani campaign I have now twice had invisible, non-locateable Carthie armies/FMs siege cities of mine, which forces me to reload since I can't sally with my army since there is no army present! I even tried to find it using an outside army the last time and while it presents the red areas that should indicate where it is sadly those red zones seem to indicate an army that would already be in the city!:inquisitive:
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Originally Posted by bovi
The dummy prince got bored of sitting inside Oxtraca and decided to take a walk to investigate the issue on location:
https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4951/docksac9.jpg
The demons fiddling with the docks apparently vanished at his rumour. Well, if you can't go there, it's not yours! :laugh4:
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A couple more bells and whistles:
- Foreign Sea Trading Post is awaiting its EB description:
https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/...adepostai7.jpg
- The adjective form of Pahlava appears as Parthian:
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4927/parthxp4.jpg
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2205/...0ff162e5_o.jpg
And I've found my culprit: an invisible Xanthippos. Oddly enough I can not attack him in the open field, even though it shows the little sword. I tried, repeatedly, to no avail. I finally brought him to task when he decided to retreat into a city and show himself there. But I will say that is a most annoying bug.
Note: It shows 14 AD b/c I took the pic before I activated the script; I loaded a game to get this pic.
That is really odd. I don't think I've ever seen invisible armies before. Could there have been a major disaster that killed every soldier in a stack, making it a ghost army, then that merged with another and remained invisible?
LordCurlyton, am I seeing something wrong in your minimap? It seems kind of weird, colourwise.
AFAICT the map color is actually a lack of minimap texturing. I played the first few years with straight RTW-exe before converting over to BI-exe, which required/recommended the deletion of map.rwm. The mini-map has been that way ever since. I like it, personally. Very crisp and all.
@ Bovi: I didn't think of that, but I DO know that Xanthippos is a spawned character, no? Maybe something weird happened when he got scripted to appear...I can also say that I saw a perfectly visible Xanthippos appear after the start of Punic War I, but (and I can't say positively) I would have sworn there was TWO Xanthippos' in the army, and then I get this invisible, non-assailable, obviously worn down army with a 65-year old Xanthippos in it. Took me some frustration to figure it out, since if he sieged you could not find him and could not sally, as the red ZOCs when you move an army would indicate that he was IN a city I owned!!! And if I COULD manage to somehow locate the phantom with the inside army it would just say path blocked. But as I said he made the fatal mistake of retreating into a city, where I brought him to task with that full stack of Polybian units you see in the screenshot.
I once had the invisible character problem, but in my case it was me who controlled the invisible army!
Playing an EB 0.81 campaign with Baktria, I moved a character with the "move_character" command (to a perfectly valid location) to intercept some brigands and he just vanished. Clicking on the location the character was moved to did select him normally and showed the army layout and the area of movement for the turn, the character stayed invisible on the campaign map however. I tried to attack the brigands with my invisible army, but that caused an immediate CTD (right after I right-clicked the brigands: looked like the game crashed because it couldn't play the attack animation of the invisible character).
So perhaps there is a tiny chance in RTW that "spawning" a character (creating or moving one with a script command) causes the character to become invisible, and that using such a character for some specific actions crashes the game. Could be an explanation for some of the unexplainable crashes ~:)
Freaky.:dizzy2:
Has anyone had problems with the Campaignian (sp?) cavalry giving them flashing lines on the battlefield? It's hard to explain, so here's a screen shot:
https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4070/bugug2.jpg
I've had a similar problem with praetorian cavalry, but that problem was far more severe and often gave me CTDs.
damn, this should have been fixed already.Quote:
Has anyone had problems with the Campaignian (sp?) cavalry giving them flashing lines on the battlefield? It's hard to explain, so here's a screen shot:
Seems that this is the right thread for two minor observations I made:
1. In Tyde, the northwesternmost settlement in Spain, there is a Sacred Enclosure to Marduk. This seemed pretty odd to me.
2. As Sweboz I experienced it twice that a family member got both the Spearcarrier and the Gaizaberon ancillary in the same turn. Which seems odd because it's exactly the same thing.
I had a CTD during a battle when I zoomed at the Campanian Cavalry. I also had a similar problem with the praetorian cavalry in 0.8, so this is probably a known issue.
Dunno if you know or not, but the low-res Hoplitai (Greek Classical Hoplites) have a short spear. All other low-res hoplite models have a long spear, as far as I know.
The Getai unit Komatai Epilektoi has an incorrect upkeep cost. It should be 737 (1/4 of their recruitment cost), but currently it is 168.
A few issues I've noticed (apologies if these have been posted in other threads):
1. Some of the untyped public order bonuses remain. I've seen them on two flavors of AS temple, one flavor of Hayasdan temple, and a few other places I don't remember as specifically.
2. In my Hayasdan campaign, I now have duplicate homeland/expansion region markers in the pan-caucasus provinces (except the capital). One set appeared as normal after the capital triggered the start of the reform, and the other set seems to have showed up after I captured Karkathiokerta (Sophene province, in case I totally butchered the city's spelling...). Not a problem as far as gameplay (these markers share my culture), it's just a bit of unnecessary clutter in the city.
3. My AS campaign ran into the Babylonian New Year bug noted elsewhere. Maybe this is intended but unclear, but I find it odd that the Babylonian New Year trait triggered when the faction leader was in Antioch at the start of spring - seems pretty far from Babylon to me...
4. One of my AS guys (I think the one who starts out in Ipsos or Sardis) starts with a Mentor ancillary who says he reduces squalor. His actual effect is to increase squalor. Not that I mind - it's relatively easy to move the ancillary along so he's putting the brakes on someplace like Antioch. ~:)
5. Again, maybe WAD, but I noticed that both of my satraps in the AS campaign got the "minting own coins" trait very soon after their satrapy ancillary, despite being Loyal characters. Perhaps the minting trait isn't as closely tied to the basic character traits as I'd expect, though.
Ligurian Infantry have a bow symbol instead of javelin symbol when you click to attack a unit.
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Originally Posted by maso
In the Saba factional MIC (at least the very first level) has a gramatical error. At one place, it says "the the". See picture below.
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7582/thetheib6.jpg
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I get plenty of such typos in texts but simply ignore them. As I said elsewhere, stock games tend to have at least as much. Some discrepancies in history of the year texts I save though, which are apparently leftovers from the initial copy-paste.
But I'm keeping screenshots of missing descriptions and place holders to upload in lot, instead of piecemeal spam. ~:)
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Thanks. That was not the only case of double the's, I've fixed a number of them now :2thumbsup:.
I don't have a screenshot but it can get annoying sometimes. When you try to look at the unit details or get a message pop up. The words and stats are there but in the picture part, its a white blank. I'll try to get a screeny next time it happens.
I saw that on the apothecary once. I think if the guy alt-tabbed out of the game and back in again, the pictures came up fine, then turned white again the next time he pulled the scroll up. The solution was more RAM, IIRC.
Komatai Epilektoi are missing sprites. When you zoom out far enough on the battlefield, the only thing you see where they are supposed to be are their shadows.
The last sentence of the short description for Scythian Foot Archers reads: "However, like most bowmen, they are not well suited." The end of the sentence appears to be missing.
The Year in History popup for 255 BC has a mistake in it:
'Defeating' should be 'inflicting'.Quote:
... In Cyclades, Antigonos Gonatas secures the Island League, or Nesiotes, after defeating a serious defeat upon the Ptolemaic admiral Patroklos, ...
The description of the Aorsi Riders implies they should be armored better than the basic horse archers, but they actually have even less armor.
I have this problem with campanians and with asthetairoi but I don't have a screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWFanatic
One of my KH generals, a Spartan, doesn't have a Spartan bodyguard (and curiously also got several traits unbecoming of a Spartan, which I began beating out of him in wars after he completed the Agoge).
EDIT: A regular Claudius, that one.
Only starting spartan generals will have spartan bodyguards. We cannot change this, unfortunately.
There is no description for Carthage reform (at least in Roman settlements :dizzy2:)
Its white background looks strange as well.
https://i233.photobucket.com/albums/...mphet/0001.jpg
I've found a few small things:
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...8m_cbd8e68.png
- The "Year In History" message appears on the second turn of a year, not the first:
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...7m_297d1c1.png
- When selecting how often you want the Olympics etc. to be held, one of the options says "Biennual" - it should be "Biennial" IMO (I don't think "Biennual" is a word, but even if it is, then it should still be changed in order to fit in with "Quadrennial"):
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/...3m_ab67928.png
- The settlement of Ankrya looks like it's surrounded by sand:
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...5m_5faf9b5.png
- In the description of the "Zoanon tou Dios", its bonuses are listed twice:
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...0m_3272631.png
- This is more a personal thing than a bug, but in my opinion, the image for a sounded rallying horn for a General seems too different from the image for a rallying horn that hasn't been sounded:
The YIH thingy is known. Mind you your faction leader receives a YIH trait in Spring. The trait description contains exactly the same as the YIH message. (Which incidentally is simply the trait description triggered through the line "gain_message" or some such piece of code.)
So if you wish you can already look everything up one season before the game pops a message.
Yeah, 'Biennual' isn't a word... :shrug:
Babarian towns have always had that white ring around them, just like 'civilized' towns have a white square.
The temple bonuses means that you get +2 morale. Most likely, the building has a base set of bonuses and your faction gets even more because of their cultural familiaritiy with the building.
Quite correct. We "overload" many different unique buildings into one in order to cram more buildings in without hitting the hardcoded limit. In this case, as there is not a faction requirement, it could probably be merged into one instance of the bonus. Or possibly each variant was meant to only have one of them, I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
Code:onethree requires factions { all, } and hidden_resource not_here
; 3 Worth 18,000 each for destroying
; onethree egyptian = Philai etc. - TRIAKONTASCHOINOS Pselkis
; onethree carthaginian
; onethree roman
; onethree greek = Statue of Zeus at Olympia - PELOPONNESOS Korinthos
; onethree eastern
; onethree nomad
; onethree barbarian
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; Philai extra bonuses:
recruits_morale_bonus bonus 1
trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1
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recruits_morale_bonus bonus 1
trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1
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The Saka lesser general has this problem when he's on foot. Except the stretchy part extends from his foot to his weapon instead of all the way into the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by strategos alexandros
Yeah, I noticed this applied to Roman towns after first posting. Does that mean that there is no way to fix it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
I think there is a file somewhere that decides what 'picture' goes underneath the town. I thought of changing it so that the littlest circle appears under all town sizes, making the large towns completely cover the whiteness. But I have forgotten what file it was and have been to lazy to look for it. :sweatdrop:
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Hey, first of all, great mod. I love everything in EB.
One very minor thing I've found:
The ancillary Puella gaditana has an effect of +2 Influence and -2 Unrest. The +2 influence is ok to me, I know they were supposed to be like wink wink nudge nudge :eyebrows:, but I think that a -2 unrest is a bit excessive for just some chicks shaking her moneymaker.
You know, it's not like they danced for the poor. :beam:
Anyways, it's great to see ancillaries like that. Your attention to detail is massive.
Keep up the good work, chaps!
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Budget trouble
I'm getting -sometimes largely- different amounts of mnai in my coffers than the end of turn summary suggests; sometimes more, sometimes less. I re-build the balance using add_money but it's happening every turn now and gets frustrating:
https://img254.imageshack.us/img254/...dgetpq8.th.jpg https://img513.imageshack.us/img513/...dgetqr6.th.jpg https://img254.imageshack.us/img254/...dgetyx2.th.jpg https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...dgetfl0.th.jpg
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Is not EB. The scroll suggests an estimate -and my guess is that it is equal to the income of all your settlements minus the expenses you make- it doesn't cover for rebels popping up, governors dying, protectorates paying you less/more tribute this season, governors changing from one to another, battles you fight, etc. etc. :shrug:
In short: I've seen that happen with other mods and Vanilla as well.
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Relieved. :sweatdrop:
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There is a small typo in the Akademia description ("it's" should be "its" in one case):
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/...am_0fa71f2.png
The Lakonike province (here controlled by the Koinon Hellenon) has two small sections taken out of it, one of which is part of the Aitolia province (here controlled by the Eleutheroi), the other one being part of the Kilikia province (here controlled by the Ptolemaioi):
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/...em_a36c6f8.png
The three provinces south of Sparta allow you to recruit a wide range of mercs there and is completely intentional.
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...but still... I'm getting such dramatic differences:
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/...cbudgetmp4.jpg
If you're sure that's OK I'll need plenty of patience and add_money in the rest of my campaign. :computer:
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Client ruler for the town of Arpi is broken. It's spawned right out of the settlement (one tile off to the right), doesn't get the Client Ruler trait and if moved inside the town gets that intruder vice (forgot the name). Tried twice with the same result.
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Btw, it is not "Zoanon" but "Xoanon tou Dios" (Zeus' statue), the "x" to be pronounced like the "x" in "Bartix".
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'Faction Destroyed' messages for Pahlava (or Saka-Rauka but not both) and Hayasdan didn't pop up. Arethey missing/WIP or is the AI tricking?
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My two cents worth while I'm thinking of it...
1. As Romani, I also have the graphics problem with the Campanian cav, although I have (fortunately) not experienced a CTD when viewing them.
2. Despite the client ruler movement fix, I still can't get my Type IV rulers to move out a settlement, even after living there many years and/or being asked (ordered!!!) to sally.
Thanks guys!!!
Possible additional data you could supply us with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
For instance:
-check if you happen to have another character with the exact same (aka one) name? Look among your assasins, spies etc. etc. Particulalry those who got epiteths. Also look among the Client Rulers you got.
-check if you happen to have a whole bunch of Client rulers in place? Say ~20-50 or onwards?
-check if you happened to have conquered/captured the city with a full stack in place when the interloper-client ruler was spawned?
It won't help your game much, but at least we can gather data. (I made a report about it internally as well some days ago.)
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Thanks. :bow:
He was named Letontu. I had one Letontu Oxthracoi, later epitheted the Fat but he was dead by the time. Although I note down all FM/Wife births and dates, this one seems to have slipped and I can't tell you the date right now but I recall he was dead and epitheted when the bug stroke. I have to check in-game for exactness. He might be the culprit. :yes:Quote:
-check if you happen to have another character with the exact same (aka one) name? Look among your assasins, spies etc. etc. Particulalry those who got epiteths. Also look among the Client Rulers you got.
Lusotannan scribes take careful notes especially of wars, major battles, alliances and protectorates, as well as conquests, annexations and client kingdoms. Thanks to that, I can provide some details:
The first client kingdom (gov4) established by Lusotanna was Campania in 173 BC. Letontunos was the governor of Capua (spawned client ruler).
The second client kingdom was established later the same year and the spawned ruler (in Ariminum) was named Likinos. In 168 BC Ariminum revolted and Likinos was killed.
I had a certain Likinos Mirobricoi, died in 185 BC. Apparently no problem occured about any Likinos.
In the winter of 166 BC client kingdom established in Apulia. The puppet ruler for Arpi was named Letontu but he spawned right out of the city and never got the necessary trait. I decided to use him as a general in the field instead.
In 165 BC. Capua rebelled and Letontunos was killed. (They're always killed probably due to movement restrictions.)
Sometime around here (the scribes didn't write it down) I tried the type IV in Arpi again. Another Letontu was spawned, right out of the city and without the Client Ruler trait. I joined him to the army the other Letontu had been in, and poof! the first Letontu vanished. There's only one there and it has the second Letontu's portrait.
In the winter of 164 BC client kingdom of Kalabria was established. The properly spawned ruler was named Letondu (not Letontu).
In 161 BC. Arpi with no governor revolted. In 159 BC it was taken back but a type III government was ordered.
Agent names, I have to check in-game. Only those of permanent ambassadors are of interest to the scribes and they don't match with the client ruler names.
Per above, that's not the case. I've been newly experimenting with client rulers and their total number is 4, including the killed ones in revolts (< 4 at a time that is). If a type IV settlement revolts and is taken back, then a type III (annexation in RP terms) is built.Quote:
-check if you happen to have a whole bunch of Client rulers in place? Say ~20-50 or onwards?
Inapplicable. Much less than a full stack with mostly depleted units.Quote:
-check if you happened to have conquered/captured the city with a full stack in place when the interloper-client ruler was spawned?
Hope it helps you narrow it down if a little. :bow:
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I've seen the Hayasdan faction destroyed message just in the last few days. Will check the Saka and Pahlava.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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Pahlava is all right. I haven't got Saka and Hayasdan.
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2 minor problems with a Romani campaign
https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/421/0002ej8.th.jpg
this FM doesn't have the "Gens x" trait (in this case Avrelia, is the first son of Caius Aurelius Cotta)
also, a really odd thing: after I took Syracuse in 253 bc or so, icons of the "fish" resources popped up in all Italy, even in inland areas (only the icons, not the resource itself), look at the screenshot
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a) After combining an army with another army that was besieging a settlement, the combined army continued besieging the settlement, but the Family Member in charge appeared to be crouching (as if ambushing or out of movement points), rather than standing and facing the settlement, as he was doing previously. It may be important to note that the army originally besieging the settlement was led by the same Family Member who was put in charge of the combined army, and that the army that merged with his was led by a captain.
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http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/...2m_fafeb7f.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. This character (who, I believe, is the Faction Leader of Makedonia at the start of the game) is both a Moderate Drinker and an Occasional Drinker. What is the point of having two groups traits that convey basically the same thing (i.e. how much one drinks and the regularity of their drinking sessions)?
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a) A word is missing after the word "covered".
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a) The Eleutheroi Family Member who is in Thermon at the start of the game (I believe) has a Peasant unit card for his bodyguard unit.
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http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/...6m_e7fedb6.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. As the word in brackets after a building's or unit's description is meant to be in English, I suggest changing "Gymnasion (Gymnasion)" to "Gymnasion (Gymnasium)" or "Gymnasion (Excercise Area)" or something similar, as "gymnasion" is not a word in English; and, moreover, if the player doesn't understand what "Gymnasion" means when they read it as a transliteration from Greek, reading the same word again will not help them!
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a) "The Medieval ages" should be changed either to "medieval times" or "the Middle Ages".
b) This phrase does not make sense: it must be changed accordingly (for example, by changing the word "defences" to "armour").
c) There should not be a comma here.
d) "Bronzen" should be changed to "bronze" here, as "bronzen" is not a word!
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a) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropiate tone?
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http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/...9m_a4380bf.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. In my opinion, it would be better to use a colon here.
b) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropriate tone?
c) The word "do" is not needed here and should be removed.
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http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...0m_81d44ef.png
a) It seems strange that the Eleutheroi, who are, by definition, not a united people, should have a capital. Therefore, could the capital be moved to the settlement in the province of Eremos? If the Eleutheroi have a tendency to move it around from time to time, then could the script move it back to Terhazza (I believe that's the right one) every turn after the Eleutheroi finish their go?
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a) "From what" should be changed to "to that which".
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a) It seems strange that this building, which is clearly "Barbarian", should be "Western Greek". Should this not be changed?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As you call the Autumn traits "Autumn" traits, could you change the season description for when it is not winter from "Spring, Summer or Fall" to "Spring, Summer or Autumn"?
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a) If it is not clear from this picture, on a particular turn, all my Family Members received both their normal, faction-specific season trait (namely, that of autumn), but also a trait called "Autumn" which had the same description. Presumably this is a bug?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. With this trait, I neither understand why it is named "Repulsive", nor do I find its description particularly easy to understand. I had to read the description three times before I realised that the character's settling of accounts and his going shopping were separate events (i.e. it did not mean that this character went shopping straight after settling accounts). Secondly, why should this stinginess (or at least, that was my overall impression after reading the trait's description) make the character "Repulsive"? Both the title and the description of this trait need to be changed, in my opinion.
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a) It seems strange that, when looking at the recruitment window of a settlement, a character's Unit Card should be strangely cut off at the right-hand side.
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "honour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
b) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "colour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
c) In this case, "it's" should be "its".
16) ii)
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/...1m_53b369b.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. The comma should come after the second bracket since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
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http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/...2m_2b8b483.png
a) I found these units in a settlement controlled by Saba; were they not meant to be restricted only to Eleutheroi settlements?
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1) The combined movement points are those of the army with the lesser ones. The joining army used all their points and as a result the combined army had none left. Independent units aren't affected. (Your general might leave the army and go away granted that he has mps left.)
7) In-game humour I believe. ~;)
9) The capital is moved autoidiotically by the AI and is not moddable, AFAIK.
17) Apeleutheroi are spawned in all rebelling settlements, no matter what the faction. ADD: The higher the mic level, the fewer the apeleutheroi.
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Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
I've checked and Letontu the Fat (fka Oxthracoi) was recorded to have died in 166 BC. He's probably the cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
Suggestion:
If the client rulers' names can be any name then make alien names (Hellene, Gaul, Romani and Tsori?) to the faction's roster.
If the client rulers' names need to be in the faction's name list then tag them as Letontu_client etc.
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In game weirdness. No really: it's the default thing a general does after traveling and having run out of 'movement points'. So if either of the general cannot travel further than this particular spot...Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Dunno.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This character (who, I believe, is the Faction Leader of Makedonia at the start of the game) is both a Moderate Drinker and an Occasional Drinker. What is the point of having two groups traits that convey basically the same thing (i.e. how much one drinks and the regularity of their drinking sessions)?
And that should've been "a covered version", I suppose.Quote:
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a) A word is missing after the word "covered".
:gah2:Quote:
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a) The Eleutheroi Family Member who is in Thermon at the start of the game (I believe) has a Peasant unit card for his bodyguard unit.
:grin: Yeah, I think your assumption would be correct.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As the word in brackets after a building's or unit's description is meant to be in English, I suggest changing "Gymnasion (Gymnasion)" to "Gymnasion (Gymnasium)" or "Gymnasion (Excercise Area)" or something similar, as "gymnasion" is not a word in English; and, moreover, if the player doesn't understand what "Gymnasion" means when they read it as a transliteration from Greek, reading the same word again will not help them!
What's the English for 'contaminatie'? A proper mix up.Quote:
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a) "The Medieval ages" should be changed either to "medieval times" or "the Middle Ages".
Yup.Quote:
b) This phrase does not make sense: it must be changed accordingly (for example, by changing the word "defences" to "armour).
c) There should not be a comma here.
d) "Bronzen" should be changed to "bronze" here, as "bronzen" is not a word!
Intended. Humour.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropiate tone?
a) Correct. Textbook example of the use of colons. If there is any textbook about it that is.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. In my opinion, it would be better to use a colon here.
b) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropriate tone?
c) The word "do" is not needed here and should be removed.
b) See 7.
c) No, this time you're wrong. Emphasis of the implicit question. ~;)
Internal engine craziness. Perhaps possible, but then again Terhazza is as good as any other Free settlement for imaginary capital purposes.Quote:
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a) It seems strange that the Eleutheroi, who are, by definition, not a united people, should have a capital. Therefore, could the capital be moved to the settlement in the province of Eremos? If the Eleutheroi have a tendency to move it around from time to time, then could the script move it back to Terhazza (I believe that's the right one) every turn after the Eleutheroi finish their go?
Reserve this for tomorrow, if you don't mind. Unless somebody else replies first, of course.Quote:
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a) "From what" should be changed to "to that which".
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a) It seems strange that this building, which is clearly "Barbarian", should be "Western Greek". Should this not be changed?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As you call the Autumn traits "Autumn" traits, could you change the season description for when it is not winter from "Spring, Summer or Fall" to "Spring, Summer or Autumn"?
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a) If it is not clear from this picture, on a particular turn, all my Family Members received both their normal, faction-specific season trait (namely, that of autumn), but also a trait called "Autumn" which had the same description. Presumably this is a bug?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. With this trait, I neither understand why it is named "Repulsive", nor do I find its description particularly easy to understand. I had to read the description three times before I realised that the character's settling of accounts and his going shopping were separate events (i.e. it did not mean that this character went shopping straight after settling accounts). Secondly, why should this stinginess (or at least, that was my overall impression after reading the trait's description) make the character "Repulsive"? Both the title and the description of this trait need to be changed, in my opinion.
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a) It seems strange that, when looking at the recruitment window of a settlement, a character's Unit Card should be strangely cut off at the right-hand side.
16) i)
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "honour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
b) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "colour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
c) In this case, "it's" should be "its".
16) ii)
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/...1m_53b369b.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. The comma should come after the second bracket since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
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a) I found these units in a settlement controlled by Saba; were they not meant to be restricted only to Eleutheroi settlements?
The slave guys will pop up for everyone in a rebellion. This is on pupose and how it is supposed to work.
Sorry? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Well, whatever, but it seems odd that you should have these descriptions when EB is trying to be a definitive guide to the ancient world and whatnot. Your choice, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
If you say so :laugh4: - but it just sounds like something a foreigner would say to me (just like "He asked me what was I doing.").Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Or from that which. It depends on the meanings of 'to differ from' and 'to differ to'. From a quick googling attempt the difference doesn't appear to be that much, if any at all. Either way the current version isn't correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Foot came up with an untested, unconfirmed but quite possible theory about this issue altogether. Currently the issue is that the engine mixes up the cultures of buildings placed through script. This is one such building.Quote:
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http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/...6m_9295c57.png
a) It seems strange that this building, which is clearly "Barbarian", should be "Western Greek". Should this not be changed?
Yes, anyone should be able to: Vanilla RTW doesn't read this three for the price of one sentence. But I do not think it is really neccesary to change it.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As you call the Autumn traits "Autumn" traits, could you change the season description for when it is not winter from "Spring, Summer or Fall" to "Spring, Summer or Autumn"?
It clearly is a bug. *But* it could be 'your fault' if you have played a turn or so without the script activated.Quote:
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http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/...0m_390c0c9.png
a) If it is not clear from this picture, on a particular turn, all my Family Members received both their normal, faction-specific season trait (namely, that of autumn), but also a trait called "Autumn" which had the same description. Presumably this is a bug?
AFAIK it is one of the top levels, or even the very top level itself of a rather obnoxious bad habit. So had you read the trait description he previously acquired and remembered them you'd know what this one refers to. So the top level of an obnoxious bad habit: how would one judge him? The answer 'Repulsive' is quite possible. Beyond that it is a matter of taste if you want to keep refering to the nature of the bad habit through every level.Quote:
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http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/...4m_f123afe.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. With this trait, I neither understand why it is named "Repulsive", nor do I find its description particularly easy to understand. I had to read the description three times before I realised that the character's settling of accounts and his going shopping were separate events (i.e. it did not mean that this character went shopping straight after settling accounts). Secondly, why should this stinginess (or at least, that was my overall impression after reading the trait's description) make the character "Repulsive"? Both the title and the description of this trait need to be changed, in my opinion.
Also, IIRC this description is apart from its name copied over from a previous level.
I think this is the result of the way the engine renders the GUI. Since the picture is fine by any means if you look at the unit description (and we're talking about the same picture here!), I doubt that nothing but a completely different pose would help. And I doubt that'd be as aesthetically pleasing.Quote:
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http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...8m_3b6bd31.png
a) It seems strange that, when looking at the recruitment window of a settlement, a character's Unit Card should be strangely cut off at the right-hand side.
a) We're not using one specific form of English accross the board, so to speak. We've had a discussion about this internally, and decided we'd not maintain one specific English clause. (Mostly, I guess, because half of the descriptions are naturally written in American English (American EB Members, people who've been spending too much time in American English texts, etc.) and the other half are naturally written in British English (which is what most non-English people are taught at school AFAIK, and the native clause of the British members).Quote:
16) i)
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/...9m_6a64aac.png
a) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "honour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
b) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "colour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
c) In this case, "it's" should be "its".
b) See a.
See 16a.Quote:
16) ii)
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The comma should come after the second bracket since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
The result of rebellion or bribery which caused the settlement to join the Saba. These units are not meant to be 'Eleutheroi only', they are a unit every faction can get - but only the Eleutheroi can recruit. The reason for their existence altogether is to solve an annoying rebellion CTD, and they are also used as 'bait' to incite the Eleutheroi to upgrade/build MICs. (The desired result of this role is that new, better units become available to the Eleutheroi which should ensure better chances at survival.)Quote:
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a) I found these units in a settlement controlled by Saba; were they not meant to be restricted only to Eleutheroi settlements?
Contaminatie is the Dutch name of a particular figure of speech. The one which is about confusing two expressions and mixing them together to a new but wrong version.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
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SPQR were dead for eight years at the time this happened. :laugh4:
I presume either it's a vanilla buglet or has some little to do with the internal faction swap. Note that this is RTW.exe and there's no re-emergence.
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same is the case with late Armenian bodyguardQuote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Thats a vanilla bug. Your state of war/alliances remains after a faction is killed. This also means that if a faction is allied to someone who you are at war with then they die. That first faction will never be able to ally with you. Since an alliance/war between two peoples means that anyone allied to them is effected, it will effect dead factions too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
I discovered this a few weeks ago. Both gens Avrelia and gens Cvria were failing to pass on the gens trait. You'll get the fix in EB 1.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by beatoangelico
captured Antioch with its huge military harbour as Pontus. it gave me the access to Pendotierre (spelling), the most expensive type of ship. but i got a peasant shown in unit description scroll instead of the boat. will post a screen shot tomorrow.
there it is, the troubled boats - Pentereis
https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/...9413iv0.th.jpg
late Armenian bodyguard
https://img503.imageshack.us/img503/...5486sx0.th.jpg
i also noticed that Anatolian, Cappadocian hillmen and Eastern axeman too, have by default a rather weird for heavy infantry (thats what it says they are anyway) very thin formation that would be more suitable for a skirmisher unit.
is there a reason for that?
https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/...5216ag8.th.jpg
i always manually put them into denser formation.
thanks
Hi, me again :beam:
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a) I came across this Arverni army besieging an Eleutheroi settlement, and saw that there was a red streak in the grey/black ground that they had created by besieging the settlement. Presumably this should not be there?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The way this is phrased seems quite abrupt and not in keeping with the style of EB's other descriptions to me; I would edit the description of such campsites to the following: "The population of a nearby town has been expelled. Its people seek temporary refuge here before moving on.".
3)
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a) The highlighted text should read "290s" in both cases.
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The way this is phrased seems quite abrupt and not in keeping with the style of EB's other descriptions to me; I would edit the description of such campsites to the following: "Country Bumpkin - This man talks too loudly in public and pays too close attention to the teeth of donkeys he sees in the street.".
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a) [Not technically a bug]. I would replace the word "carry" with the word "get" here, or alternatively rephrase this sentence to say that "one can get far in life with..." - it just seems more natural to me.
b) This should read "Hit Points".
c) This should read "Hale And Hearty"; in fact, I would extend it to say "the 'Hale And Hearty' trait".
That has always been like that. Devistation caused by a foreign army living off the land. The red streaks appear when it gets really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
I'm quite sure the english word is "contamination"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
But then you still have to know what that certain figure of speech exactly means.
(De vertaling van bv. de stijlfiguur Zeugma zou al wat moeilijker liggen...)
'k Ben bang dat je nu niet de stijlfiguur maar de 'besmetting' zou bedoelen in het Engels. Althans Wikipedia noemt geen "contamination" onder "figure of speech" - en wat dat betreft is het doorgaans wel correct.
In het Engels heten veel stijlfiguren hetzelfd als in het grammatica jargon, dus het zou zomaar kunnen dat Zeugma simpelweg Zeugma is (google bevesitgt dit vermoeden). :wink:
Ik leer bij... ik leer bij...:clown:
Ik had niet aan besmetting gedacht natuurlijk, het leek me zo logisch :wall:
Ik heb ook eens op wiki gekeken naar de lijst van engelse stijlfiguren en ik zie niet direct iets wat er op lijkt.
But now we shall continue in English, because to most people it must seem as if we're talking jibberish.
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There's already a talkgibberishDutch thread out there. :clown:
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Another Lusotannan gov4/Client Ruler problem:
In Avaricum, Olindikus gets the Interloper trait and full movement points when spawned (correctly, inside the settlement). It's only the next turn when he gets the Client Ruler trait and movement restrictions, and gets rid of the Interloper.
Tested twice (reloading). Nobody's got the same name (Olindikus).
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too many "k" and "j" in Dutch for my tastes :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediolanicus