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The thing about the founding fathers is, when george washington was giving his farewell address europe was in a period where they were fighting eachother all the time. Any close alliance with one of them would have brought us into their wars, which bore very little relation to us. These days they don't fight eachother and there are many more things to tie us together.
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I would say Odin's a Jeffersonian.
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Sasaki's right: it was a speech made in the backdrop of the French Revolution, when France was fighting just about everybody else in Europe. There was a large part of Americans at the time who think that the USA should align itself with France against Great Britain (and others), both to return the aid given by France in the Revolutionary War and in the common cause of "liberty" that both revolutions share.
Even the ideologically isolationist Jefferson was a staunch supporter of this cause.
Washington, I think, foresaw that the USA simply didn't have the resources to go against Great Britain again so soon and God knows how much more by joining a European alliance, so he said what he said and was proven more-or-less correct when the USA got its capital sacked in the War of 1812.
Ideologies usually are born from the specifics of the time interpreted into the general whole anyway, though, so it's not like this viewpoint is "invalid." I just don't particularly enjoy the quasi-deification some give to the "Founding Fathers" and their viewpoints, as well as the Constitution of the United States...
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I just don't particularly enjoy the quasi-deification some give to the "Founding Fathers" and their viewpoints, as well as the Constitution of the United States...
This is a wonderful opportunity then for you to put me on your ignore list, unless your trying to be funny (which I dont). while your generous depiction of "some" and thier foundness for the constitution and forefathers is a bit insulting, I'll happily enjoy my new status as an entity you dont enjoy.
By all means, ignore away.
Any thoughts on chavez btw ? :rolleyes:
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This is a wonderful opportunity then for you to put me on your ignore list, unless your trying to be funny (which I dont). while your generous depiction of "some" and thier foundness for the constitution and forefathers is a bit insulting, I'll happily enjoy my new status as an entity you dont enjoy.
By all means, ignore away.
Any thoughts on chavez btw ? :rolleyes:
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What's with the 6th grader hostility?
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What's with the 6th grader hostility?
Internalized anger! :nurse:
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This is a wonderful opportunity then for you to put me on your ignore list, unless your trying to be funny (which I dont). while your generous depiction of "some" and thier foundness for the constitution and forefathers is a bit insulting, I'll happily enjoy my new status as an entity you dont enjoy.
Just how did you get the impression that I insulted you is beyond me. :dizzy2:
And no, I don't "do" ignore lists. They feel petty to me.
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Just how did you get the impression that I insulted you is beyond me. :dizzy2:
And no, I don't "do" ignore lists. They feel petty to me.
I'm not insulted. I enjoy bile filled rants personally. You know the kind, the ones that really dont say much but attack a broad point of view?
Give you an example, someone posts in a thread a particular point of view or comparative. someone else comes along and says something like.
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I just don't particularly enjoy the quasi-deification some give to the "Founding Fathers" and their viewpoints, as well as the Constitution of the United States...
Of course me being the one posting several quotes from founding fathers that would mostly like mean you "dont particularly enjoy" my point of view.
Please, do the ignore mate, your already petty. :rolleyes:
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What's with the 6th grader hostility?
Why did you read it as hostile? Are you in the 4th grade?
Poster says he dosent like to read about founding fathers or constitution or whatever the hell he was talking about and I gave him an option where he didnt have to read it.
Hows that 6th grade? I'll extend it to you genius. If you find something I post juvenile or not to your liking please take responsibility for your choice to do so and either ignore it move.
Or, and here is a novel concept: You could ask the intent rather then assume its hostility, which is very 4th gradish of you. :drama2: