Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

Late one night
When we were all in bed
Old Mother Leary
Left a lantern in the shed

And when the cow kicked it over,
She winked her eye and said,
"There’ll be a hot time
In the old town, tonight."
-- Anonymous



Fatlington – Day One – Mid-Afternoon


Fatlington lay in the sun like a huge checkerboard of flat black-tar roofs and light grey streets. The air shimmered in waves off the black roofs, heated by the blazing August sun, tar sticky from the heat and speckled with broken clamshells deposited by Seagulls as they used gravity to open dinner for them. The hottest part of the year and, for Fatlington, the biggest part of the year for the merchants and businesses who catered to the tourists visiting the Jersey Shore.

Six decades past the white beaches lining the boardwalk would have been crowded with “the quality” taking in the breeze and swimming in the cool Atlantic. Six decades had not been kind to Fatlington. Like a courtesan well past her prime, Fatlington still painted on a gay face for the tourists, but these days “the quality” were in Palm Beach or Havana and Fatlington was left to cater to the factory workers of Allentown and every other urban armpit in North Jersey or Eastern Pennsylvania. Like calls to like.

It had been a normal summer until July neared August. Then the outbreaks had begun. Very few died, but dozens were struck with cholera and several others seemed to be showing signs of the Spanish flu. That flu had visited Fatlington just after the War to End All Wars had wrapped up and put 15% of the population into the ground. Now, only a few years after the latest War to End All Wars, New Jersey authorities were quick to respond with a 30-day quarantine. Nobody would be leaving Fatlington before Labor Day.

Tourists screamed about their jobs and needing to get home, the locals screamed about the tourists, and the Fates promptly added a heat wave of epic proportions to turn up the pressure. Atropos, apparently, had always taken an interest in Fatlington.

Mayor TosaInu, away at Trenton for a conference when the quarantine began, moved Heaven and earth to get something done for his beleaguered town, but to no avail. In the corridors of power in Trenton, his most persuasive arguments could not counter one basic truth – it was only Fatlington after all, not somewhere that mattered.

But to some, especially a small group of “entrepreneurs” who met infrequently in Havana, Fatlington had value…once a few changes had been made.

“We’ll have to make a few changes folks!” said Fatlington’s Police Commissioner Seamus Fermanagh. “Hizzoner sent me the instructions just before the phone system crapped out.”

The best and brightest of Fatlington were gathered in the convention center ballroom. The scene reminded a few of them of the meetings from ‘the last time.’ Then, some of these best and brightest had been meeting to decide the fate of others as a Committee of Vigilance. Dozens had died before the mafia had been brought to heel. It had all started with a meeting just like this one. A collective shiver ran through the room despite the sweltering heat.

Fermanagh wiped his face with a handkerchief. He’d begun his morning with doughnuts and coffee for nearly 3 decades, but it was a long while since he’d followed breakfast with 10 hours of walking a beat. The sweat was already through his shirts and working its way through the waistband of his trousers.

“We’re in for it again, and that’s no lie.”

Silence filled the room.

“Tosa and I, well, we’ve been hearing rumors that the epidemics are a put-up job to set the stage for another takeover effort by those eye-talyun scum. Nothing we can act on or convince the governor to stop the quarantine, but the story is too consistent from too many snitches. The loss of the phone lines pretty well confirms it.”

Fermanagh paused, looking over the figures in the room. A wealth of expressions – and non-expressions – played across the faces before him.

“We know their methods now – they infiltrate our best and brightest and then try to eliminate anyone that they can’t convince to join them in their scheme. Which means, of course, that the criminal scum who’ve started all this – who’ve killed dozens of people, many of them paying tourists for God’s sake – are right here in this room.”

Fermanagh paused a moment to let that sink in.

"Hizzoner has informed me that he’s re-instituting the Committee of Vigilance that saved us the last time. Some of you know how this works, but let me remind you all. Today, you’ll discuss and then select a Director of the Committee. Each day thereafter, you will vote to lynch the one among you who has proven themselves to be part of the mafia scum seeking to destroy us and we’ll keep lynching until we’ve ended the problem.”

Cries of “that’s insane” and “Fermanagh, stop the bull___” and one quiet “rats, not again” bounced around the room.

“Pipe DOWN!”

Fermanagh didn’t shout much, so when he did it worked – if only from the surprise value.

“Of course its hideous people, but experience has taught us that it – and pretty much nothing else – works. The director will get a squad of police to protect her or him during their duties – we will select a new director every other day – and of course the Director can’t vote except for their tie-breaking powers. My officers will pass around a sheet with the particulars on voting and the like.”

“Now, this burg is about ready to explode, so my officers and I are going to be hard pressed to keep order. I’ve a few secret detectives I’ve put in place to help you, and I hope they’ll get the information to you about who deserves the chop. But it’s going to be up to you to save us all. Get your heads together and then select someone.”

Only a few heard the muttered, “…pray for us sinners, now and at the hour…” that Fermanagh actually ended his speech with.

It would be a long, hot summer.





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Vote to Select a Director for Days 2 & 3. Selections must be recorded in the thread no later than 0900 EST (1400 GMT) 5 February 2008.


So let it be said, so let it be written, so let it be done.

Let's start this off right, shall we?

Elect: GeneralHankerchief

Select: Andres

Might as well select a mod :help:

I shall
Select: Kommodus

he's good at finding mafia, and it'd be sad to lose him in first rounds anyway...

Select:Ichigo

I'm the only one I can trust.

We should ask CR if he is a townie. Though I'm not great at asking questions without any loopholes whatsoever, so someone else should work on it.

Elect: Fahad I

We might as well give a new player the full Capo experience.

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Elect: Fahad I

We might as well give a new player the full Capo experience.

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But he cant be of much use as a director :inquisitive:

that suggests something...

Select: Kommodus

Though I must've missed it out in reading rules n stuff, it seems that a director would survive 1st rounds for sure? I recall him pinning down some mafiosi in the past, so agree with Charge.

Plus, I don't like someone who votes for himself as director actually getting the role, because, that's what he wanted? Let's not give 'em that! :P

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My first mafia game in a long while! Looking forward to it! innnntresting, but very complicated.. so much rules, and so much players :S

good luck & have fun, everyone! :bow:

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Originally Posted by CountArach

We should ask CR if he is a townie. Though I'm not great at asking questions without any loopholes whatsoever, so someone else should work on it.

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That whole thing died with Mafia VII, which you were a part of, IIRC. :dizzy2:

I intend to

Select: GeneralHankerchief

One who I currently trust, and who will be a popular candidate for the axe if he isn't elected to prove his worth.

I am paranoid of what will be thought of everything I write!

So I must edit to say I trust GeneralHankerchief because I believe he would be given a more moderate role this time - instead of a largely evil one such as in previous games.

Don't credit my guess too faithfully..

I suggest that we go for someone who will know what they are doing on the first day so that we dont miss any oppurtunities to get a jump on any potential threats.

Elect: GH

Select: Beefy187
He's always innocent.

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Elect: Fahad I

We might as well give a new player the full Capo experience.

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Indeed. Rumour has it, Fahad, that you have already been tentatively probing players with the intent of recruiting them.

What say you to this?

Since the roles were selected randomly, there's no way of knowing who would be dangerous to elect as Director.

Director also doesn't seem to be much of a good role, since you can't vote. However, it does keep you alive, so for now I think an experienced player sounds like a plan.

Select: GeneralHankerchief

For now.

Select: GeneralHankerchief

I have known GeneralHankerchief for many years. He has been a good friend and neighbor. I know he will do what is best for this town.

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Originally Posted by Glenn

I intend to

Select: GeneralHankerchief

One who I currently trust, and who will be a popular candidate for the axe if he isn't elected to prove his worth.

I am paranoid of what will be thought of everything I write!

So I must edit to say I trust GeneralHankerchief because I believe he would be given a more moderate role this time - instead of a largely evil one such as in previous games.

Don't credit my guess too faithfully..

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This is strange. I don't think it's a good idea to trust GH.:inquisitive:

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So I must edit to say I trust GeneralHankerchief because I believe he would be given a more moderate role this time - instead of a largely evil one such as in previous games.

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Didn't he say that roles were assigned with random.org? So GH is just as likely as anyone to be mafia. There's no such thing as a law of averages :wink:

Yes, but Ichigo, you do not comprehend a good idea to trust anyone, and thus you voted yourself.

Indeed, it's not logical to trust anyone at this point. And I don't think we can count on GH doing what's best for the town either...

am I supposed to think: 'nonsense!' or 'hmmmm, suspicious'

hmmm

:book:

I agree with Ichigo, blindly trusting anyone is stupid, so i will Select: Kagemusha

Select: SasakiKojiro

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Yes, but Ichigo, you do not comprehend a good idea to trust anyone, and thus you voted yourself.

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Blind trust in someone is foolish, which means you know something we don't.

Well, then it is a productive and fine thing some of us are stupid, otherwise all 70 of us would vote for ourselves and Seamus would have to make someone Director.
Then who would feel stupid?

As for suspicions - it is far too early to dearly trust, or despise anyone - given the entirely epic nature of this game, every player knows something the other doesn't, but I love this already!

I will Select:Abstain

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Well, then it is a productive and fine thing some of us are stupid, otherwise all 70 of us would vote for ourselves and Seamus would have to make someone Director.
Then who would feel stupid?

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Actually, that would be better for the town.

A random selection for Director is just that - random. Townie method of election is subject to player activity, general manipulation, and prior loyalties/deals made. The chances of getting a "tainted" director, especially considering that the families are the only people who know who are each other are, are much lower when done by random selection. The only way this can happen is if everybody gets one vote.

Yes, I know this logic labels me as "tainted." If you want to go after me for it, go ahead. I'm used to early exits from Capo. :laugh4:

An early exit was what I thought you would appreciate being saved from - no, not for any private reason, but for the pretext that I have read all the previous Mafia games, and pity the popular veteran player who gets lynched early - innocent or criminal - without enacting anything.

However, even if Seamus were to select himself, he would not do so randomnly, he would be forced to choose an active player for the welfare of his game, and he would be influenced by certain unconscious things also.

And, knowing his history, he could very easily choose a Don for the sake of disaster!

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Well, then it is a productive and fine thing some of us are stupid, otherwise all 70 of us would vote for ourselves and Seamus would have to make someone Director.
Then who would feel stupid?

As for suspicions - it is far too early to dearly trust, or despise anyone - given the entirely epic nature of this game, every player knows something the other doesn't, but I love this already!

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When did I say anyone was stupid? I find it strange that you could trust someone so early in the game is all. Though it would be stupid for everyone to vote for themselves, but I was pretty sure that wouldn't happen.

someone really wants to be a director... :inquisitive:

Select : Andres

Give me one good reason why I should trust one of you guys :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Though it would be stupid for everyone to vote for themselves, but I was pretty sure that wouldn't happen.

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Nobody is voting for themselves. Some of us are mereley selecting themselves ~;)

select:abstain for now

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Originally Posted by Andres

Nobody is voting for themselves. Some of us are mereley selecting themselves ~;)

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Real funny :beam:

Selecting abstain seems rather pointless to me :shrug:

Select: SasakiKojiro

only because I just read a finished mafia game with him in it, and he seems veteran.

If everyone voted for themselves, and Seamus was forced to randomly choose a director then it could also be bad. We are better off just voting for the people who we think will make a difference. Anyways, is the Director really all that influential in the long run. Yes he is immube to death, but it is not like he gets an INSTA KILL! on anyone he wants. We need to choose a safer player, someone who is reliable and is known for telling the truth. Then again, since they are random roles, that person could be the Don, but honestly what are the chances that on the first day out of 79 players and 4/5 Dones one is picked?

I say we go for someone. If we are wrong, so what? Its the first day and I doubt it will matter much. If we are right, yea, we protected a good player for a few days and now he can go on the manhunt.

Also, I have been impressed by General Hankerchief, even though I have hardly ever seen him before. He domonstrates knowledge, and if he was scum, then why make a post about randomly selecting people?

I vote General Hankerchief

Unselect:myself, Select:Andres

I'm not a big fan of GH being the director.

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Also, I have been impressed by General Hankerchief, even though I have hardly ever seen him before. He domonstrates knowledge, and if he was scum, then why make a post about randomly selecting people?

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To make him look less scummy? Just a thought

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Originally Posted by Andres

Selecting abstain seems rather pointless to me :shrug:

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since when was I ever not pointless...

scottishranger, you give alot of explanation for something you claim to be in fact unimportant... :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by scottishranger

If everyone voted for themselves, and Seamus was forced to randomly choose a director then it could also be bad. We are better off just voting for the people who we think will make a difference. Anyways, is the Director really all that influential in the long run. Yes he is immube to death, but it is not like he gets an INSTA KILL! on anyone he wants. We need to choose a safer player, someone who is reliable and is known for telling the truth. Then again, since they are random roles, that person could be the Don, but honestly what are the chances that on the first day out of 79 players and 4/5 Dones one is picked?

I say we go for someone. If we are wrong, so what? Its the first day and I doubt it will matter much. If we are right, yea, we protected a good player for a few days and now he can go on the manhunt.

Also, I have been impressed by General Hankerchief, even though I have hardly ever seen him before. He domonstrates knowledge, and if he was scum, then why make a post about randomly selecting people?

I vote General Hankerchief

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because he knows what kind of effect that post will have on people like you... :sweatdrop:

I promise everyone TRUE CHANGE, I Have covertly campaigned for 35 years for this change, and voting me will get you this change.

AS SUCH

I Select: Myself

Select: Jubal Barca

As thanks for hosting the TWC games.

There is no need for all this suspicion as of yet!

Criminals are going to slip through in any case in the first round - certainly, and it is a common fault in previous games for people to spend far too long gazing into the words of others for clues when it is impossible to tell friend from foe.

Sasaki, Andres, the General, Myrddraal, and the likes of these are prime candidates because nobody else is known to the public - and no one of them can be labelled any more suspicious than any of the 70 people playing.

However, I am going to recede slightly, as I don't want feuds and bitterness to begin over this simple argument.

Finally, Scottishranger, the Stranger is right - if you praise and support GeneralHankerchief in the way you have done, simply because of his idea to help the Townsfolk, you deceive yourself as readily as though who suspect everyone too easily.

Well, this first director selection might as well be totally random, as we have nothing to go on. That said, I'm reluctant to vote for anyone who wants the role, or for any veteran players who have a track record of scheming skull-duggery, and will be able to use the position to best advantage if they are, in fact, mafia. With this is mind I Select: Ichigo.

I personally think I should be major.. if it only be because people always lynch me for spamming... bleugh...

i never spam... where do they get it from??? not from me... thats for sure...

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Originally Posted by Glenn

There is no need for all this suspicion as of yet!

Criminals are going to slip through in any case in the first round - certainly, and it is a common fault in previous games for people to spend far too long gazing into the words of others for clues when it is impossible to tell friend from foe.

Sasaki, Andres, the General, Myrddraal, and the likes of these are prime candidates because nobody else is known to the public - and no one of them can be labelled any more suspicious than any of the 70 people playing.

However, I am going to recede slightly, as I don't want feuds and bitterness to begin over this simple argument.

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What's wrong with feuds? Feuds generate discussion, which makes for a good game. As long as it's kept within the spirit of the game, there's nothing wrong with irrationally wanting another player dead. Heck, if you can persuade enough people to go along with you, you can do something about that too.

and exactly a reason not to listen to you, pann... because you will just ask people to suicide... a lot of discussion there...

(S)elect: Andres

If only to save him from alphabetical lynch in the first round ~:)

Yes, feuds do make the game interesting - but as this is my second Mafia game, (the first being Fimbulwinter), I do not wish the be involved in the first feud that encompasses Capo II!

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

and exactly a reason not to listen to you, pann... because you will just ask people to suicide... a lot of discussion there...

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No suicide pacts I'm afraid. Seamus has evidently taken note of my muses on the subject, and banned them from this game as a gamebreaker.

good... because it is a real gamebreaker..

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

No suicide pacts I'm afraid. Seamus has evidently taken note of my muses on the subject, and banned them from this game as a gamebreaker.

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Correct on all points.

Select: Big King Sanctaphrax

The director should have a sweet name with a lot of titles.

Select: Andres. Can't really go wrong with picking the mod, imo.

Select: Kommodus.

If he's towny we really should keep this guy alive. The games I've played, I know he was a great Maffia hunter. If he isn't well...better than just random I guess.

And now off to bed. I have a lot Claymore episodes to see tomorrow.

Select : shlin28

Lets keep the voting open for now, lets keep the race for this first spot open without apparently tying it up too early. Don't want to end up with only something like 2/3 candidates left with a realistic chance of winning after only a few more hours.

Unselect: SasakiKojiro
Select: Leet Eriksson

Well seeing as I only can only really trust 2 people, my self and my buddy. And that neither of us are really gaining any support voting does nothing. The only other person I have RP'd with is countarach though I have no reason to trust him over anyone else. So I will not vote for I have no reason to vote for anyone only a reason not to vote.

Why the change, Husar?

Select: Prole Selecting the only innocent person I know..

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Originally Posted by norwegian nerd

Well seeing as I only can only really trust 2 people, my self and my buddy. And that neither of us are really gaining any support voting does nothing. The only other person I have RP'd with is countarach though I have no reason to trust him over anyone else. So I will not vote for I have no reason to vote for anyone only a reason not to vote.

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What makes you think you can trust your buddy? Are the two of you the same person?

Select: Kommodus

I don't think this is really that big of a decision. All we're doing is protecting someone from night kills for two night phases. I think Kommodus is a good choice because

A) If he's a townie it's in our best interest to keep him alive.

B) If he's mafia, this puts him in the spotlight where he might slip up. :yes:

Aye, the seat of the director is a crown of thorns.

When you post here in this thread, it is like viewing a harbour, plain and vast - quite peaceful and welcoming - but home to a great amount of activity and secrets that go very deep beyond the surface.

A paranoid feeling.

Select: Husar

Because... he is a likeable chap. :2thumbsup:

select: Andres

He seems less crafty than GH.

Kommodus isn't a bad choice, but I wonder how useful Holmes will be in this game.

CR

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

What makes you think you can trust your buddy? Are the two of you the same person?

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I would be foolish not to trust the one person I know I can trust.

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Originally Posted by norwegian nerd

I would be foolish not to trust the one person I know I can trust.

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So how do you know you can trust him? Have the two of you compared role PMs?

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

So how do you know you can trust him? Have the two of you compared role PMs?

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I know I can trust him because the gamemaster told me I could trust him and if I don't trust the gamemaster there isn't much point in playing a game of mafia.
What makes you belive I shouldn't trust him?

Guys, methinks we've found our first lynch. Post 68 in case he edits it out.

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Originally Posted by norwegian nerd

I know I can trust him because the gamemaster told me I could trust him and if I don't trust the gamemaster there isn't much point in playing a game of mafia. What makes you belive I shouldn't trust him?

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Norwegian, why don't I buy you some red and some white paint, and then you stand still while I draw with my brush, a nice wide bullseye on your chest?

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Norwegian, why don't I buy you some red and some white paint, and then you stand still while I draw with my brush, a nice wide bullseye on your chest?

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Well you are welcome to buy me paint though I don't see myself painting a bullseye on my chest.

@Panonnian, why so quick for a lynch? Trying to take the heat off your own guilty conciensce?

Come on lads, no jumping on new players. Give Norwegian a chance.

However, Norwegian, I am afraid the one thing that can save you now is for your buddy to step forward, or for you to name him. Knowing a fair bit about how mafia games are played here, I think this is the only thing that will keep you alive anymore. Sorry, sucks to be new.

Norweigian, sorry to say this, but you're just asking to get killed on the first day even if you happen to be innocent

As for the director, I don't really care mainly because I don't think the director of the first day or so can really make a difference unless it becomes blatantly obvious that a certain group of people are constantly wanting one individual to be the director to protect him

Select: RoadKill

Seriously. When was the last time I was mafia. Thats right never.

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Originally Posted by norwegian nerd

Well you are welcome to buy me paint though I don't see myself painting a bullseye on my chest.

@Panonnian, why so quick for a lynch? Trying to take the heat off your own guilty conciensce?

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Well, given the roles in the game, I'd guess that you're a Made gangster, and the buddy whom the gamesmaster told you you can trust is your Don. Or perhaps you're the Luca in the family. You're not the Don, as the Don would know the IDs of his Luca and his 2 Mades.

If my buddy would like to post hist name his welcome to though that is his choice, for if you truly belive me to be mafia then for him to be my buddy he must also be mafia so if I reveleded my buddy then I would give you a second lynch target which is unfair to him if he does not so wish to reveal himself.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Well, given the roles in the game, I'd guess that you're a Made gangster, and the buddy whom the gamesmaster told you you can trust is your Don. Or perhaps you're the Luca in the family. You're not the Don, as the Don would know the IDs of his Luca and his 2 Mades.

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or i could be a simple tonwie with just a good buddy?

I think that I'll Select: GH as it's the first day

Given the roles in the game, I'd say he was Romeo, and he speaks of Juliet, (Or Julian - ha!), or something similar.

In any case, Seamus will probably wince when he reads what Norwegian wrote, and we can all be safe in the knowledge there is at least one hidden agenda out there.

HOWEVER.

Being a junior member, there could be something more sinister here if he is another member who changed identity just for this game.
Or he could be a junior member who was very quick to take to the role of Serial Killer.

So, it would be well advised not to vote for him, as he will either be a pitied new member who ruined his role, or a Serial Killer who will thwart you.

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Originally Posted by norwegian nerd

If my buddy would like to post hist name his welcome to though that is his choice, for if you truly belive me to be mafia then for him to be my buddy he must also be mafia so if I reveleded my buddy then I would give you a second lynch target which is unfair to him if he does not so wish to reveal himself.

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