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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cu...houting-glory/
FIFA continues sucking to Russia. Can't see what's wrong with "Glory to Ukaine". It is like "Vive la France" or something like that. I wonder if he shouted that or "Glory to Russia" would FIFA look differently upon it?
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Gilrandir
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cu...houting-glory/
FIFA continues sucking to Russia. Can't see what's wrong with "Glory to Ukaine". It is like "Vive la France" or something like that. I wonder if he shouted that or "Glory to Russia" would FIFA look differently upon it?
Because it's just plain out lying, as Ukraine aren't even in the tournament to win any glory. It would be like saying that England play good football; just as palpably untrue. Now it would be different if they said that Ukraine are crap, or that England play like a lower division team.
FWIW, anyone singing Deutschland uber Alles should also be done for misrepresenting the facts.
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Pannonian
Because it's just plain out lying, as Ukraine aren't even in the tournament to win any glory. It would be like saying that England play good football; just as palpably untrue. Now it would be different if they said that Ukraine are crap, or that England play like a lower division team.
FWIW, anyone singing Deutschland uber Alles should also be done for misrepresenting the facts.
I didn't get it. Do you mean you side with FIFA in this issue?
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Gilrandir
I didn't get it. Do you mean you side with FIFA in this issue?
Nah, just wanted to say that England played like a lower league team in the FA Cup.
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Ranting for nothing? FIFA is just processing the reports, nothing has been decided. If I was Ukrainian I would find this fascination of Nazis with my country quite embarrassing*. Anyway, I love the cowardice of provocative idiots.
"Boohoo, it was just a joke, I was referring to my buddies, please don't fine!". Not having the guts to defend yourself and instead being forced to invent childish excuses is pathetic but also expected from the admirers of Ustashe. Glad France humiliated these clowns.
*That's not addressed at you Girlandir.
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Crandar
Ranting for nothing? FIFA is just processing the reports, nothing has been decided. Anyway, if I was Ukrainian I would find this fascination of Nazis with my country quite embarrassing. Anyway, I love the cowardice of provocative idiots.
"Boohoo, it was just a joke, I was referring to my buddies, please don't fine!". Not having the guts to defend yourself and instead being forced to invent childish excuses is pathetic but also expected from the admirers of Ustashe. Glad France humiliated these clowns.
I agree with you in part. If you are going to protest/complain, have the moral fortitude to own up to what you are doing.
When I was at university as a student, I signed my 'evaluation of the teacher' feedback forms.
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Seamus Fermanagh
I agree with you in part. If you are going to protest/complain, have the moral fortitude to own up to what you are doing.
When I was at university as a student, I signed my 'evaluation of the teacher' feedback forms.
Doesn't that undermine the other students' evaluations (to the extent they have any)? Seems a bit conceited.
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Montmorency
Doesn't that undermine the other students' evaluations (to the extent they have any)? Seems a bit conceited.
That's their problem. Owning one's criticisms is never wrong, even if the criticisms themselves are wrong. Other people may not be obliged to do so, but doing so is not wrong.
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Montmorency
Doesn't that undermine the other students' evaluations (to the extent they have any)? Seems a bit conceited.
It may have. If so, so be it.
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Crandar
If I was Ukrainian I would find this fascination of Nazis with my country quite embarrassing*.
*That's not addressed at you Girlandir.
If you think that by saying "Glory to Ukraine" one expresses fascination with Ukrainian nazis, you are deeply mistaken. The salutation has stopped being associated with nationalists (and it never was with Nazis) and it is quite usual to hear it from different people (including jews, officials, priests) on different occasions.
Symbolic words and images may change and lose their former significance and associations. Same as the current Russian flag in the time of WWII was a symbol of Vlasov's army. And swastika of ancient India has been totally usurped by Hitler and has now totally negative connotation.
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...-about-ukraine