Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)

[GeneralHankerchief]

If the assassin votes the King, the rest of the guardsmen would be over him like hungry wolves.

I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.

[Andres]

I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.

[Andres]

Is how I imagine an assassin would adhere to the probes of his investigators. It's a neutral and obvious message, it's as if you're trying not to give anything away - and that worries me.

I agree, Warmaster Horus is too much going with the flow. It seems like he is trying to avoid getting attention. Add to that the fact that he didn't vote yet.

Unvote ; Vote : Warmaster Horus

Good night all.

Vote tally:

Andres : 1 (Omanes)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)

[Warmaster Horus]

It's true. I don't like attention. In real life, or in mafia games. I say "games" because you'll have noticed my behaviour in other games. Which, I believe, is the same as here. As Omanes said: "He's played like that in other games, trying to avoid attention. In those games, he was innocent." It's the same here.

As for voting, well, now I must vote, right? For who?
Well, as I said when asked who I'd vote for, I'll Vote:Andres. Now, a three way tie. Let's see who breaks first.

Edit: Few, I'm tired tonight. That post took me about 15 minutes.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

If the assassin votes the King, the rest of the guardsmen would be over him like hungry wolves.

That's impossible. The guards vote for the King to to avoid drawing suspicion to him.

Anyhow, since we need four to lynch, we really need to decide who out of the targets is most dangerous. I'm not changing my vote. I'll leave that to you.

[Sigurd]

I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.

I missed that feature... So there are no night phase?
nvm me... play along. I shall return to my seat.

[Andres]

Tally

Andres : 2 (Omanes, Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)

We'll have to make a decision guys...

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Unvote: Andres

I just decided to take the time to create a full overview over the thread and, now thinking it over, I do sense that you may be innocent. Although I do have a small feeling somewhere that you may not be, so don't consider yourself safe from my vote yet.

As said, we need a trap for the assassin, something to slip him up. The problem is that without external activity we cannot do this without the assassin knowing about it and being ready!

Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)

[Warmaster Horus]

So, Omanes, you have the possibility of voting for somebody. Who? We need to get this moving.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I need more evidence and time to think. My instincts send me towards Louis, he's a little quiet for my liking, but I'm not sure enough to want to have him lynched.

[Louis VI the Fat]

This isn't going anywhere.

Okay, here's my deal:
I have voted, to the best of my instinct and analysis, and I haven't made a secret of my thoughts in general either. I'll leave my vote as is, but to get this game moving, I will join any bandwagon. I'll keep or join the vote for the very first person who reaches three votes.

Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)

[Warmaster Horus]

Omanes, two hours enough?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Dutch_guy
Vote: Warmaster Horus

Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 1 (Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 3 (Andres, Dutch_guy, GH)

[Warmaster Horus]

Why, General?

[GeneralHankerchief]

To keep things moving, and the fact that there's a good chance that you're the assassin.

[Warmaster Horus]

Fine by me...

Can I vote for myself?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You may vote for yourself.

[Warmaster Horus]

Thanks!

Vote:Me
Since Louis had said he'd vote whoever had three votes...
I'm lynched.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Warmaster Horus has been lynched. He was a Guard.

It is now day 2. With 5 alive it's 3 to lynch.

[Dutch_guy]

Omanes, I think it's time to speak. What are your thoughts on the game thus far, with one guard down? It strikes me you that haven't voted for anyone yet, surely that's not the way to go about this game ?

Or is your reluctance to speak caused by your role ?

[Andres]

Bah, so far for my analysing skills.

Got some rereading to do.

Meanwhile:

Vote : Omanes

[Andres]

On second thoughts:

Unvote : Omanes
Vote : Louis


Omanes is just being who he is.

Louis has limited himself to stating the obvious followed by a wee bit too exaggerated attitude of "Hey, I don't really care, oh, I'm soooo not-mafia, look at me, I'm soooo innocent...".

I'll stick to this vote, Louis, unless something really, really obvious points in the direction of another player.

[Warmaster Horus]

Omanes, soon as you can, please tell us your thoughts.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Oi, I'm away for a little while and all hell breaks loose....

I need some time to think it all over.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Okay, I'm back. Well that round sucked. Sorry to have lost you, Warmaster.

This is a much more difficult game then I expected it to be when I read the rules.

I've read the thread over again, but I can't figure it out. For each of the players, there is both a good reason to assume they are innocent and a good reason to think they are not. I'm not going to make a prodding vote.

We now know for sure you are innocent, Warmaster Horus. Are you allowed, and willing, to keep sharing your thoughts with us? Why did you vote Andres?

Andres, Dutch_guy, GH, why did you vote Warmaster? And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?

Louis has limited himself to stating the obvious followed by a wee bit too exaggerated attitude of "Hey, I don't really care, oh, I'm soooo not-mafia, look at me, I'm soooo innocent...".

Hey, I do care. I was right there, eh? I casted my vote and stated my reasons. I just can't help being impatient.
But we had to decide on a vote at some point, didn't we? People were not going to reveal anything decisive anyway, it was always going to be a lucky shot. At least my instincts were correct that Warmaster wasn't the killer.
And neither did I abstain, like Omanes.

[Andres]

I've read the thread over again...

You did?

Because the answer to...

Andres, (...) why did you vote Warmaster?

Is right here...

And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?

Allthough you stay number 1 on my list, this is a very good point. But, a simple click on his username and choosing the option "find more posts by Omanes Alexandrapolites" would have revealed this: the post he made at 4.49 pm was his last one until now, so he probably hasn't been online since than...

At least my instincts were correct that Warmaster wasn't the killer.

Touché. But maybe it weren't your instincts because you simply knew for sure that Warmaster wasn't the killer...

[Warmaster Horus]

Andres, Omanes said he'd read the thread again, and think things through. It takes time for that, and well, there's real life to consider too. He's probably eaten, socialized, and did usual things for him in the evening. So, he may have searched through the thread, jotted whatever thoughts came to him on paper, and decided to act later.

[Andres]

So, he may have searched through the thread, jotted whatever thoughts came to him on paper, and decided to act later.

That was what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough

Omanes didn't react yet because he indeed probably had real life interfering.

Louis could have figured that out for himself by simply looking at Omanes' public profile (he took more than enough time to make his latest post).

That's why this particular remark:

And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?

smells like a cheap accusation.

With this remark, Louis is actually saying that Omanes is suspicious because he didn't dare to cast a decisive vote, and only somebody who doesn't know the king would not cast the decisive vote, wouldn't he. So basically, he accuses Omanes and at first sight, it looks like a justly accusation, but the basis for that accusation doesn't make any sense at all.

So I stick to my vote.

[Louis VI the Fat]

You did?

Because the answer to...Is right here...

Yes it is. Everybody posted some reason in the thread. I know. But I now need the find the answer why people voted for a guard. Chances are, it was mere bad luck and intuition. But I will prod for ulterior motives.

a simple click on his username and choosing the option "find more posts by Omanes Alexandrapolites" would have revealed this: the post he made at 4.49 pm was his last one until now, so he probably hasn't been online since than...

I know Omanes, he's online all the time. A simple click on his username doesn't suffice though. You need to check here. His profile shows he has his visibility turned off, he hasn't been online since 12-1-07. So for all we know, he's right here staring at us now.

But maybe it weren't your instincts because you simply knew for sure that Warmaster wasn't the killer...

That is not as clever as you think it is. There are only two ways of knowing for sure Warmaster wasn't the killer: knowing he is the king, which he wasn't. Or being the killer yourself.

Now, I'm afraid the reverse of what you insinuate is true: those who did vote for Warmaster, not those who didn't, are thus more likely to be the killer themselves.

That's why this particular remark:

Originally Posted by Louis
And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?

smells like a cheap accusation.

Excuse me? A cheap accussation? Well it sure beats a cheap lynch, hey? Are you being a hypocrite or are you lusting for more guardian blood? :

Post 111, directly after the lynching.
QUOTE=Andres:
Bah, so far for my analysing skills.

Got some rereading to do.

Meanwhile:

Vote : Omanes


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More in general, you seem awfully aggressive. You've cast two votes in this second round already. You are throwing mindless accussations around. Has Warmaster's death wet your appetite, while the guards and king are all quietly licking their wounds from the last round and wondering where to take it from here?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Guys, I've figured something out.

I've been going through ideas in my head for days trying to figure out how we, the guards, can press an advantage we have over the assassin. I think I've finally come up with something.

We will always have a numerical advantage over the assassin, even when it's 2-1. Considering this in mind, adding the fact that Sasaki reveals roles upon death, and assuming that person is allowed to contribute after they die and we know them to be innocent, we should just lynch as much as we can.

Someone suspicious? Lynch 'em, and lynch 'em quick. If they're the assassin, then we win, and if they're not, we have another confirmed innocent.

Let me know what you guys think. I volunteer to be the first victim to prove my trustworthiness.