Ah,thank you. I remember seeing that post but I was skimming a little and yours was a little big
And as for FH and Craterus I thought I might have missed the reason somewhere in this vast thread...but couldn't find it. Thanks for pointing it out.
Ah,thank you. I remember seeing that post but I was skimming a little and yours was a little big
And as for FH and Craterus I thought I might have missed the reason somewhere in this vast thread...but couldn't find it. Thanks for pointing it out.
The Gods envy us.
They envy us because we are mortal, because any moment might be our last.
Everything is more beautiful because we are doomed.
You will never be lovlier than you are now.
We will never be here again.
Ok, I don't trust Andres at all.
I logged on intending to rat him out for attempting to recruit me, only to find that he has pre-empted this by posting our PM conversation, claiming that his initial message to me was a ruse intended to bait "evil" wiseguys. This is possible, but it's also possible that he knew I was about to post his PM and decided to do some damage control. It wouldn't seem so suspicious if he came clean about it first, would it?![]()
And now Louis, who Andres claims to have helped find an entire family, is refusing to provide the necessary proof to Sasaki or Drisos?![]()
Other points:
FactionHeir: No.Originally Posted by Glenn
Crazed Rabbit: Wrong again. Though as I've stated before, I think he has a role other than townie; I'm just not sure what. I hope he gets investigated.
Remember that I am measuring behavior quantitatively.
I am not sure which of Andres' posts you are referring to here.Originally Posted by GH
EDIT: One last question:
Can you explain this? I see that he was part of the assassination group with Zorg, scottishranger, and Hannibalbarc, but when did he become confirmed mafia?Originally Posted by Sasaki
Last edited by Kommodus; 02-14-2008 at 04:22.
If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward. -Jack Handey
@Kommo:
Andres made the Wiseguy PM public in this post.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Their intent was to become a mafia group.Can you explain this? I see that he was part of the assassination group with Zorg, scottishranger, and Hannibalbarc, but when did he become confirmed mafia?
"Becoming weary of your lies
You disguise the truth belies
Only fooling yourself
Pretend to bite the hand that feeds
But you won't discard your security
The transparency of your fantasy"
--Napalm Death
Sunset, Day Four
Louis VI the Fat was just about to gavel open the session when Commissioner Fermanagh strode into the room and up to the podium. After a hurried discussion with Louis, he spoke to the Committee.
“I’ve got some bad news folks. Three more of the committee were found dead today. No foul play is suspected, but we found the bodies of Fahad I, Killfr3nzy, and x-dANGEr on the beach just an hour ago. It appears they’d been drinking and fell asleep on the beach. All of them appear to have died of sunstroke. I’ll have the teams check to be sure of course, but for now this appears to be a simple tragedy.”
Louis hammered the gavel into the podium and began the session as Fermanagh exited.
If yesterday’s session had been contentious, this one would best be described as viscious. Accusations flew and evidence claims were made and even the Director claimed to know who the real criminals were. In the end, however, it all came down to a scribbled set of much crossed out and re-worked ballots.
Fermanagh’s team checked Louis’ tally carefully. In the end, it came down to one name.
“Omanes has been deemed guilty by the vote of this committee,” said Louis. He turned to Omanes, who had been quickly pinioned by two of Fermanagh’s guards. “How would you like to die Omanes?”
Omanes stared at Louis but made no reply.
“Cat got your tongue? Taken a vow of silence? How about this for an answer?”
Louis nodded to Corporal Muldoon who walked to Omanes, pulled out his service pistol, placed it against Omanes’ chest and pulled the trigger three times. Omanes blanched, but did not scream and did not fall from the grasp of the two officers. He simply stared at the ceiling and quietly bled to death.
The Committee started for their homes and another long hot summer’s night.
OOC
1. A long and tough review of votes folks. This review was NOT, I repeat, NOT helped by the folks who edited theirvotes against the rules. Changed votes MUST be in a new post. DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN or sunstroke will achieve pandemic proportions.
2. Night 4 PM deadline is changed to 0800 EST 15 February (1300 GMT).
3. Vote Tally Day Four
Abstain = 9 (Haudegan, Ironside, Kukri, Grizzly, Mak, nn, Sara, w&f, Xehh II)
Omanes = 9 (Chimp, Count, gibson, Hiji, Kami, Lt.P, North, Scottish, TinCow)
GH = 8 (ajax, dutch, husar, omanes, prole, sigurd, True, Xiahou)
Dutch = 6 (Andres, BSR, Caius, Charge, Kage, Kommo)
Andres = 5 (Crate, Rabbit, FH, GH, Sasaki, Warluster)
Sigurd = 3 (Elite Ferret, Ichigo, Tran)
Xdeathfire = 1 (shlin28)
4. List of Players:
Still Alive: (64) ajaxfetish, Alexander the Pretty Good, Andres, Big King Sanctaphrax, Brave Sir Robin, Caeser the III, Caius, Charge, Chimpyang, CountArach, Cowhead418, Craterus, Crazed Rabbit, Draco Leman, Dutch guy, Elite Ferret, Evil_Maniac from Mars, FactionHeir, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921, Haudegen, Hiji, Husar, Ichigo, Ironside, JimBob, Joe Monks, johnhughthom, Jubal_Barca, Kagemusha, KamiKhaan, Kommodus, KukriKhan, Leet Erikson, LittleGrizzly, Louis VI the Fat, Lt. Pinard, Makanyane, molonthegreat, Moros, Motep, Myrrdraal, Northnovas, norwegian nerd, , Proletariat, Roadkill, Rob_the_Celt, Rythmic, sapi, Sarathos, Sasaki Kojiro, scottishranger, shlin28, Sigurd Fafnesbane, TinCow, Tran, TruePraetorian, Twilightblade, Warluster, Warmaster Horus, woad&fangs, Xdeathfire, Xehh II, Xiahou.
Attacked: (12) Andres (N2, N3), Beefy187 (N1), Caius (N3), Evil_Maniac from Mars (N3), Glenn (N1, N2), Xdeathfire (N1), taka (N2), GeneralHankerchief (N2, N3), Cowhead418 (N2)
Murdered: (8) Drisos (N1), Lord Winter (N2), Beefy187 (N3), Glenn (N3), Pannonian (N3), taka (N3), The Stranger (N3), Zorg (N3)
Lynched: (4) pevergreen (D2), Hannibalbarca (D3), Tiberius of the Drake (D3), Omanes Alexandrapolites (D4)
Removed from Play: (3) Fahad I, Killfr3nzy, x-dANGEr
Last edited by Andres; 02-14-2008 at 10:19. Reason: I prefer flowerz
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Only the devil himself BeefyOriginally Posted by Beefy187
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Total Mafia Games played ~ 30
Total Mafia Awards = 1
Betrayal is a terrible thing and this is the only sort I overlooked when formulating my plans.
All I have to say now is kill Louis as soon as possible. Of course I can't reveal my reasoning, but I assure you, he is not pro-town, and his reasons for revealing most of the family are not in your best interests. He's only doing this for himself and needs attention most critically.
Last edited by Omanes Alexandrapolites; 02-14-2008 at 11:50.
Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go back to bed
OK, I'm past caring. I'm still alive, so I can share information as I see fit.
Louis and I worked together in this game. At least, that's what I thought.
The plan was to make Louis the second Made of our family asap. We did pretty well together, he acted as the perfect newly recruited Wiseguy.
Me and Louis killed Drisos on N1. Drisos was in the first townie protection group I infiltrated and I wanted to cripple them.
On N2, I wanted to go for BKS, an easy target, who would not be protected. The idea was to get Louis make the three required kills asap to become a Made. I was director at that time and bound to survive for at least another two nights, so if Louis would have done what was told, he would have become a Made gangster. Guaranteed.
Louis told me GH was mafia and needed to die. I wanted to kill GH with Louis instead. First he said he couldn't do that, afterwards, he agreed to take out GH.
For some unclear reasons, at the last minute, he refused to perform the hit on GH on N2. So, I attacked GH alone. Obvioulsy, the hit failed. I should have dumped Louis after that. Alas, the charming Frenchman talked himself out of it.
On N3, I got contacted by another Wiseguy who wanted to cooperate with us. Louis worked together with this Wiseguy and they killed Pannonian. The Stracci Luca and myself attacked GH for a second time.
GH survived miraculously.
After that, I came into trouble in the public thread, but it wasn't that bad. We still had two recruited, trustworthy Wiseguys, one (Louis) just needed one more kill to become a Made. Louis was director, he was pretty safe. He just had to talk himself out of things, if necessary get me lynched to draw suspicion away. Things were going smooth. In the meanwhile, since I was getting lynched anyway, I started to send several pm's to known wiseguys, in order to recruit them.
For some unclear reason, Louis decided to rat us out. He betrayed the Stracci family, but wanted me to survive. I don't know how he came up with Tran as the Made gangster. He probably took an easy target, a lurker who can't do much to defend himself.
Tran was not our Made gangster. You all know now who is the Made gangster of the Stracci family.
Louis betrayed our family and wanted me to become his puppet. He backstabbed us for his own personal glory, his aim was to abuse the last remaining Stracci to become a Don.
He thought I would turn out to be a traitor who happily backstabs his teammates.
Louis was wrong. I lie, I deceive, I play dirty in mafia. But one thing is for sure: I am and I will always be loyal to my team. I'm a teamplayer, not an individualist.
Louis, you made a miscalculation. The mistake in your plan was assuming that I am not a teamplayer.
I would say lynch us both tomorrow, but as a Director he will pick me and let himself live.
I call upon the Mafia families: make an example out of Louis. Once he's no longer director, kill him. This sort of disrespect and treason towards a mafia family cannot go unnoticed.
We are men of honor. Treacherous snakes need to die.
I have incriminating material against two other mafia Dons in this game. I won't use it yet. I expect Louis' head in return for the favour.
Good luck to the remaining mafia families! Watch out for traitors!
Last edited by Andres; 02-14-2008 at 11:56.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
Louis, Louis, Louis... You betrayed us too then?
I guess you really can be persecuted for my death..
JimBob.. others.. I would recommend relinquishing any loyalty you have to the friendship of Louis and make sure you have plenty of protection from now on..
Dear me Louis, and I trusted you instead of Stranger.. We kept Stranger out of conversations and kept you in.
I apologise Stranger.
I smell me a hangin'!
For the record: Glenn was definitely pro-town.
Louis took out one of the pro-town power roles.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
You may also wish to mention the wise guy in training Andres. We don't want Louis exploiting him either. The best way is to get the entire family lynched/killed to prevent him from taking control.
Last edited by Omanes Alexandrapolites; 02-14-2008 at 10:46.
Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go back to bed
Our second man in training can still chose his own path: pro-town or mafia. He has shown loyalty and has always been honest. Let's let him live and play his game.Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
I suggest we hereby declare him relieved from his Stracci-duties.
We deal with traitors, loyal men shouldn't be punished.
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Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
When can we expect Andres: The Tell-All Story to hit our shelves?
But seriously - I think we should lynch Louis ASAP. Andres' story seems too in-depth in my eyes to be made-up. But hey, this is mafia, anything can happen. Can we hear a rebuttal Louis?
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
I wouldn't let him say anything. Like Andres said, Louis sweet talked his way of of troubles on two occasions and this is where it lead to. Please he is a convinced Don, what more evidence do you need?
Total Mafia Games played ~ 30
Total Mafia Awards = 1
I see that Louis is trying to save himself and he is definitely lynch-worthy...so he was supposed to be in the protection group and protect Glenn. Well...he didn't, he claimed that he took part in the murder of Pannonian instead.
Wait...if he is really pro-town, then why didn't he just protect Glenn? I just don't buy his reasonings as mentioned in Tincow's post...Louis admitted that he killed Pannonian, on behalf of the Mafia...
Then my defense:
He's trying to throw the suspicion into my direction. I'm not in any crime family, I did nothing in Night 1 and 2, and in Night 3 I failed to send my orders to protect someone. I believe Kommodus, GH, and LittleGrizzly can confirm this...(I already contacted Kommodus as early as Day or Night 1) we failed because we didn't manage to send orders in time (logged-in to Org at late hours)
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Last edited by Tran; 02-14-2008 at 11:51.
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Louis has got to die for this, he's not pro-town or pro-mafia he'll kill us all if he can, whoever is mafia kill him or we can just lynch him later, but the sooner the better.
I believe this is the first time you have shown detail on any subject, Tran, why would this be so?
You think it is safe for your reputation now it seems we have a sure suspect?
Sarathos..
Louis is not a convinced Don, he isn't convinced of anything, nor is he a confirmed Don.
He may of wanted to be a Don - and I'm sure he will plead his case using the very post he gave to start all this and the fact he organised my protection.
However, being a Wise-Guy, and being therefore neutral to everyone - having participation in the Mafia and in one of the most discreet groups of pro-townies - no matter what his argument is - I think that the only way the truth can be obtained from Louis is by using a claw hammer to see the intricacies of his brain.
Even then, we may find nothing.
What I mean is - I have at one stage believed him totally innocent, and at another believed him guilty of the worst crimes of betrayal.
I was right to do both.
Because Louis is at a point in the game where he has no ties to anyone, and several different options. Which makes him unpredictable - which makes him suspicious - which makes him dangerous.
and any danger to the town should be killed
Oh, I'm sorry Elite Ferret - I forgot to IMPLY that.
Dangers should die. Good motto.
Ok, Ladies and Gentlemen.
The Stracci family has a talented singer among their ranks.
Can I have your applause for our star of tonight:
Andres!
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Thank you, thank you.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I got some terrible news last night. I heard my whole family is suffering from a decease called "guiltinesia". It seems like we are all going to die.
This decease was caused by our pet snake, Louis. The doctor told us, the snake has to be exterminated to prevent the decease spreading among other people.
You can understand that I had to forget my sorrows, I was really attached to my friend Louis, so I emptied a bottle of whiskey.
In my drunken state, I took the artistic freedom to write a song, based on the well known song "Tom Dooley", which is supposed to be written by the poet Thomas C. Land.
Ahem, here we go know, ladies and gentlemen.
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Hang down your head, snake Louis
Hang down your head and cry
Hang down your head, poor Louis
Poor boy, you’re bound to die
He met us at Dot Orgus, there he took our lives
Met us at Dot Orgus, backstabbed us with his knife
Hang down your head, poor Louis
Hang down your head and cry (ah-uh-eye)
Hang down your head, (oh beloved) snaky Louis
Poor boy, you’re bound to die
This time tomorrow,
reckon where I’ll be
Hadn't it been for our snake
I'd-a been with my Family
Hang down (your head) your head (Louis) and cry
Hang down your head and cry (ah poor pet, ah well-ah)
Hang down (your head) your head (Louis) and cry
Poor boy, you’re bound to die (ah well now snaky)
Hang down (your head) your head (Louis) and cry
Hang down your head and cry (ah poor thingy, ah well-ah)
Hang down (your head) your head (Louis) and cry
Poor snake, you’re bound to die
This time tomorrow,
reckon where he’ll be
Down in some lonesome valley
hangin’ from a white oak tree
Hang down your head, sneaky Louis
Hang down your head and cry (ah-uh-eye)
Hang down your head, beloved Louis
Poor boy, you’re bound to die (ah well now boy)
Hang down your head, sneaky Louis
Hang down your head and cry (poor pet ah well uh)
Hang down your head, sneaky Louis
Poor boy, you’re bound to die
Poor boy, you’re bound to die
Poor boy, you’re bound to die
Poor boy, you’re bound to .......die
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Thank you,thank you
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Thank you! You were a fantastic audience! I love you guys!
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Last edited by Andres; 02-14-2008 at 12:44.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
This may be poor reasoning - but hey - how am I supposed to have a firm decision made when my intestines are hanging forty feet in th air?
Even if some of the suspected are innocent, one of them is guilty, and I think we should all be very happy Andres sang us such a warm song and agree with his sentiments.
"Doo duh do-aye, Hang your head and die, little Louis, go an' have a cry, stabby Louis.."
Andres, that has to be the best musical post ever. Who can argue with that...![]()
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Last edited by Sarathos; 02-14-2008 at 13:15.
Total Mafia Games played ~ 30
Total Mafia Awards = 1
I am Don Corleone,
I see that the families are struggling and I would again invite the current Dons from the following families to the grand meeting of the Dons:
Don Stracchi (or the remaining member(s))
Don Barzini
Don Cunnio
I and Don Tataglia wait at the meeting place.
Please follow the guidelines outlined in the previous message.
PS!
To test if I am genuine, feel free to ask any question only a Don of Capo de Tutti Capi II would know in your initial e-mail (from your dummy e-mail account).
Ja mata
TosaInu
I loved the harmony in the second and third verses.
Is Don Stracci actualy dead then? Or will we never know, I don't understand this game.
Are you panicking yet guys? Yes, you are struggling indeed. I know.Originally Posted by TosaInu
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No need for the meeting, here's your strategy: the mafia teams up together, block votes Louis and the game is lost for the town.![]()
Now I shall need to be excused while I return to uncovering who the members of GH'and Sasaki's family are...
Is that the best you can do Louis? You are a single individual after all - how can your death result in the town ending up defeated?
Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go back to bed
Only if you were consumed by flame after having a certain passage from Tobias placed against your flesh. I think we can skip the demonology lessons.Originally Posted by Beefy187
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"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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