The Full Monty: Simpsons Mafia [Concluded]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 11-30-2008, 02:50

This is everyone's role PM. Enjoy.

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**Askthepizzaguy** · 11-30-2008, 02:55

I did put hints in this game, though perhaps not as many as before. I will need to go back and read the thread again, and return to this later.

Will post hints expose soon, look for it. They are Askthepizzaguy trademarks.

**White_eyes:D** · 11-30-2008, 03:14

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I did put hints in this game, though perhaps not as many as before. I will need to go back and read the thread again, and return to this later.

Will post hints expose soon, look for it. They are Askthepizzaguy trademarks.

LOVED this GAME

ATPG you had a lovely number of twists and turns......I knew at the end the Stone Cutters were going to win

....I had thought they were all that was left....excusing me of course, I was surprised that Aries was town...

and that the zombies didn't kill them

**Askthepizzaguy** · 11-30-2008, 03:29

It's funny the kind of foresight I was able to come up with for the plot twists...

I for one did not know if Dr. Nick Riviera would live long enough to try to revive anyone, and if anyone got revived as a zombie, whether or not there would be enough townies left with anti-zombie abilities to prevent a total zombie victory. There was a chance there would be no zombies at all.

I also did not know if town would defeat all the serial killers and mafia, which meant there might have been no such thing as the Stonecutters turning their back on town to seize power for themselves. I calculated that if town did indeed destroy the other baddies, the game would be almost over.

I gave the town 2 reviving characters, a townie group which knew each other was innocent, a secondary "townie" group which knew others were innocent, defenders, roleblockers, 2 investigators, Anti-zombies, Anti-mafias, Anti-serial killers, Anti-murders, and all sorts of tricks and surprises. They even had anti-aliens and anti-Itchy and Scratchys.

I gave the Mafia the power to resist and eliminate zombies, provided they used a gun, and the ability to affect the tally. Unfortunately NorthNovas didn't vote during at least one tally, and none of the others were close enough for it to have an impact.

I had 4 serial killers, giving the game a reasonable chance of there being a serial killer victory. Imagine that!

Sideshow Bob was nearly indestructible. Look at his role pm... nothing harms or blocks this guy.

I gave all the bad guys dual identities except for Mayor Quimby, whose ability to have two votes would make him seem like a townie anyway.

I gave the Stonecutters the ability to murder anyone provided they and town were the only living factions remaining. Otherwise they would be counted as town.

All in all, a very complex game, I think. You could play this exact game again, with the roles randomly tossed out there, and minor tweaks to make it less predictable, and I bet you would have just as much fun. I'm keeping this overall formula for the next Simpsons Mafia game, which I am giving the working title:

Full Monty Episode II: Treehouse of Horror

**glyphz** · 11-30-2008, 04:42

Thank you for hosting a very entertaining game, ATPG!

Tons of fun, indeed!
Before seeing all of the role PMs (which is actually indeed pretty balanced), kind of thought that the town was at a large disadvantage too.
I thought the disguised Stonecutters won't be able to show our true colors due to the amount of killers that needed to be dealt w/ as 'town' first. Even in the end, I thought all remaining factions (town, neo-mafia, zombies) could get a way w/ the 'v' (big 'V' goes to Fenring').
It took a no lynch on Day 8 and surviving the following zombie attacks (lost a 'leg,' my last extra life, though

) to seal the deal for us.

Town did a very good and efficient job this game, catching all 4 anti-town roles, and the zombies and SK took care of the mafia.

**Quintus.JC** · 11-30-2008, 10:23

Very complex game indeed, and it so easily could of been anyone's game.

I thought the biggest advantage the stonecutters had were their numbers, 5 members in total. After finding each other we could protect each other from lynches and also make use of other member's ability. Sarathos (Moe) found out Sideshow Bob's secret identy early on and we discussed what to do with it, we planned to use him to our advantage but killed him at the end because he can't be brought under control. After the mafia were elimated I was sure we would go on to win (2nd place)

Excellent game Askthepizzaguy, I'll be looking forward to your next installment of the Simpsons franchise.

Thanks everyone for participiting to make this a great game.

**Smowz** · 11-30-2008, 12:07

Yes a wonderful Mafia game ATPG congratulations.

It was in danger at growing stale sometimes, but that was due to the players not yourself....

This was my first mafia game, and it was certainly interesting being part of the mafia group. Unfortunately we lost one of our members early. For my part I tried very hard to make it as unobvious as possible as to guess that I was a mafia member. However we seemed to catch the attention with all our night activities of those night dwellers the zombies.

I lived and learned throughout the campaign. I did think of the eventual winners the stonecutters certainly deserved it all of their players were active and played their roles really well I thought and contributed wonderfully to the game.

Personally I would look into this actor role, I recall when Fenring was lynched in the early stages he didn't exactly have to do any acting to get lynched the actor just has to be incredibly lucky!!!

Edit: I noticed after I had contributed towards the lynching of two of the Seriel Killers that a lot of players talk of Town and Anti-Town implying SKs' and Mafia are somewhat allies until the end. I found the SK's more of a threat than the town however as they could kill seemingly at random whereas town could be 'convinced' to vote whichever way one wanted. However having seen the factions that existed in the town I was probably foolish to try that strategy and should have tried to pin the blame on definate townies instead.

**Chaotix** · 11-30-2008, 03:53

Very awesome game, ATPG. Indeed, it was very well planned out, and at times I felt like it could've been anyone's game, and I really enjoyed it. Partly because I won (well.. second place) too!

I did feel, though, that the Stonecutters had something of an advantage over the other anti-town roles because they were technically innocent until all the others were defeated. It is balanced so that the Stonecutters can be killed by the other mafia easily, but at the same time, if all the mafia are gone, the Stonecutters are nearly assured victory with their max. 5 kills per night if all survive- maybe you should lower that. Also, I hope you don't mind if I borrow some elements for my game... which will be sometime in late 2009 at this rate.

**Thermal** · 11-30-2008, 04:04

you make great mafias atpg, my internet disconnection prevented me getting fully engaged though

**Thermal** · 11-30-2008, 03:08

great pm's and abilities ATPG

**Askthepizzaguy** · 11-30-2008, 03:11

If you guys enjoyed this game, then you may want to think about joining the sequel.

As you saw from the game outcome and the role PM's, the game is amazingly balanced and the outcome is very unpredictable.

This game would be fun, with only slight modifications to the roles, it would be a viable sequel, don't you think? I would have to randomize some of the guilty parties, of course, to keep you on your toes.

Don't miss out on my Golden Rule mafia game, which should be starting soon (within a few weeks I guess). It's the only mafia game left which will hold you guys over until I can finally get another large game going. (Quite the line has formed).

If it's a success, I will probably do another Futurama themed mafia game. Input welcome, pm me.