post-marian manipular formation

**pelopidas14** · 02-05-2009, 02:01

hi all, during polyibian reforms i could use the manipular formation by using 3 triarii 6 hastatii 6principes 2 skirmishers and 2 cavalry and one general but with marian reforms i cant make it look the same, does anyone know how?

**A Very Super Market** · 02-05-2009, 02:46

Marian reforms mash all those Hastati, Principes, and Triarii into one game-winning entity called the Post-Marian Legionary Cohort.

**Tiberius Claudius Marcellus** · 02-05-2009, 16:44

Yep, Super Market is right. Just set up your Legionary Cohorts into the "quincunx" (checkerboard) fashion and you'll be accurate.

**daveoshea** · 02-05-2009, 19:01

it was something like 4,3,3 wasnt it in a checkerboard formation, i got this roman army book by someone called goldsworthy and it has diagrams about it all
4,3,3 with cavalry on wings adn skirmisher in front etc if you want t set it up accurate

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 02-05-2009, 19:27

In the Marian era, the checkerboard formation kind of faded away and wasn't used as it had been anymore. IIRC, in late Marian they just used two lines.

**Zett** · 02-05-2009, 21:34

Che Roriniho made a unoffical manual in which you find some suggestions for a post-marian army-setup.

Here is the link to his manual: http://files.filefront.com/v004pdf/;.../fileinfo.html

**pelopidas14** · 02-05-2009, 22:23

how do i set the cohorts up in a "quincunx" (checkerboard) formation?????????

**Mediolanicus** · 02-05-2009, 22:39

Well, you just put them into that formation before battle...

click, drag, click, drag,...

**teh1337tim** · 02-06-2009, 02:15

yup
and how the units is set up is usually in two lines or 3 (depending)
the newest legions would be this

Cohort 4 Cohort 3 Cohort 2 Cohort 1
Veteren Semi vet Semi vet 1st Cohort (highest vet)
Cohort 8 Cohort 7 Cohort 6 Cohort 5
Veterens recruits recruits veterens

**daveoshea** · 02-06-2009, 11:25

http://numbera.com/rome/strategy/legform.aspx

this website show differnt formations it shows different formations for different tactics etc

Marcus was right about the checkerboard, they seemed to deploy in checker board but also adapted many other formations to suit the battle

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 02-06-2009, 11:40

That's a nice site you posted daveoshea

**rootje** · 02-06-2009, 12:15

Very interesting indeed.Will implement the strategies in my roman campaign for roleplay uses mostly and also to test them out to efficiency in the rtw engine.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 02-06-2009, 12:47

Originally Posted by daveoshea

http://numbera.com/rome/strategy/legform.aspx

this website show differnt formations it shows different formations for different tactics etc

Marcus was right about the checkerboard, they seemed to deploy in checker board but also adapted many other formations to suit the battle

That's a nice site for a very general overview but it isn't very accurate, his numbers are sometimes way off, he lists a Legionary cohort as ~550 men, when it was 480. He list the first cohort as 1100 men, when it was 800. He also shows Triarii as a reserve in a Marian legion, when they were by this time contained within each cohort (every Marian Cohort contains two centuries for Hastati, Princepes and Triarii, or one maniple of each.)