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    Not sure how much I am allowed to say. Rules state I can't talk about "communicate by PM", I am guessing that includes the number.

    Problem is, there are a few people I suspect of being power roles, the thing is, which was the killer by remember what pm/replies. However there is the rule on that. There is only one that comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Not sure how much I am allowed to say. Rules state I can't talk about "communicate by PM", I am guessing that includes the number, but I think I can say I suspect one of them was my killer or links with the killer.
    The rules only prevent you from PMing other players about the game after you are dead, they do not prevent you from posting in here. You are free to speak publicly as much as you want, within the limits imposed by the rules, which I have just gone over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Not sure how much I am allowed to say. Rules state I can't talk about "communicate by PM", I am guessing that includes the number, but I think I can say I suspect one of them was my killer or links with the killer.
    I think you can say who you sent the PM, yet you can't reveal what was inside the PM's that you sent.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Not sure how much I am allowed to say. Rules state I can't talk about "communicate by PM", I am guessing that includes the number.

    Problem is, there are a few people I suspect of being power roles, the thing is, which was the killer by remember what pm/replies. However there is the rule on that. There is only one that comes to mind.
    navarro951 is the only one with a number in his username.

    Vote : navarro951

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    navarro951 is the only one with a number in his username.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy187 View Post
    From those named by Beskar (as quoted by Sasaki), that is.

    pevergreen, why did you vote Sasaki?
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    Lol, Beefy care to confirm whether or not you had a conversation with Beskar, if not it would appear to be navarro...

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    Fellow Senators! It appears that yet again there have been murders tonight. It is clear that these will not halt until something is done with its vile perpretrators. Throughout this session, despite the flinging accusations that are common with last day, noble Ichigo has accused noble navarro of being a partizan, bent only on fulfilling the wishes of his master, whoever that may be, and contrary to the interests of the Republic. Though he has no clear argument to support his view both the behaviour of navarro and noble pevergreen have been extremely suspicious, but that doesn't prove anything. Still, not only due to that fact, but also due to the continual assassinations, I will no longer oppose Proscription measures, but I will not accuse someone I am not sure that is guilty.

    Proscript: Abstain

    Correct Vote Tally (I think):

    Shinseikhaan: 1 (Chaotix)
    pevergreen: 1 (Sasaki)
    navarro: 3 (Ichigo, Khaan, Andres)
    Ichigo: 1 (navarro)
    Sasaki: 1 (pevergreen)

    Abstain: 3 (AggonyDuck, LittleGrizzly, Jolt)
    BLARGH!

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    Haha, I like Andres thinking. It could be reference to number in username or that part could just be a reply to (Beefy?) who wondered how many I asked and I was referring to the number I sent messages too, which would mean that wasn't the clue I was trying to drop. Unfortunately, I don't want to outwardly name my killer, as I could be wrong... but I left a clue in the message for those who would try to decipher it and want it as a tip.

    @Khazaar: Basically, I randomly picked from usernames on the list which I would either had a neutral or positive relationship with from the list. Obviously, if I was trying to establish a network together, I had to metagame guess a little to who would might have complied. I keep the number small because if all 8 power roles got the message, my chances would have been far slimmer. Since 3 have been named, I will explain why I messaged them initially.

    Pevergreen - He does the vanilla mod and seems a nice guy, he also tried to get me to be one of the infamous pevers too.
    GeneralHankerchief - Swords of the Moon, we were both on the infamous innocent list and were the last two survivors at the time, so a slight possible kinship from that.
    Navarro - Completely neutral relation with, as I haven't played a game with him before.
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    Vote: Abstain

    I would like to hear much more from this Navarro first before we move to condemn him. The current evidence, in the light in which it was gathered, makes me highly suspicious of it's reliability.

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    Hm, Beskar could you be less cryptic and just FoS your suspect?
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    Since the Night kills, I will confirm who I suspected was my killer due to various evidence from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Problem is, there are a few people I suspect of being power roles, the thing is, which was the killer by remember what pm/replies. However there is the rule on that. There is only one that comes to mind.
    I messaged Sasaki as a test, I had a theory that AggonyDuck was in fact a Pomp. Sasaki also messaged me wanting protection for him. I later messaged Sasaki that I believe AggonyDuck was a Pomp, which Caesar apparently revealed tonight. Sasaki never replied to this message and I ended up deader than a dodo.

    With this, I suspect Sasaki of also being a Pomp, especially since the protection message was on Night one.

    As an added note, AggonyDuck also messaged me saying GeneralHankerchief is a praetor. Pompey just revealed him as an optimate. Make of that as you will.
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    Dead Townies have little to no reason to lie, Vote: Sasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Dead Townies have little to no reason to lie, Vote: Sasaki
    Dead Townies may not be dead Townies - there are 2 mafia families this game.

    Vote: Abstain - I await your reply to his accusations Sasaki

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    Just to let you know.

    Victory Conditions:
    (1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.
    I don't care if people are Populares or Optimates, as I messaged those previously, I suggest both Populares and Optimates not reveal their faction identities. You never know, the names listed could be a ploy by Pompey to get Caesar to assissnate those targets, so I would recommend to the Caesar faction not for fall for that ploy either.


    Also, my statement has both AggonyDuck and Sasaki listed. Sasaki as my killer if you would like to revenge me, and AggonyDuck for being a Pomp as well.
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    AggonyDuck may have been exposed by Caesar, but he is still mafia. He's gotta die, no matter what kind of victory you want.

    Vote:AggonyDuck

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    Vote:AggonyDuck

    The reveal by caesar seems to be pretty damning evidence.

    EDIT: For some reason bold will not work on my crappy 2001 iBook anymore. please accept my vote as valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Since the Night kills, I will confirm who I suspected was my killer due to various evidence from it.



    I messaged Sasaki as a test, I had a theory that AggonyDuck was in fact a Pomp. Sasaki also messaged me wanting protection for him. I later messaged Sasaki that I believe AggonyDuck was a Pomp, which Caesar apparently revealed tonight. Sasaki never replied to this message and I ended up deader than a dodo.

    With this, I suspect Sasaki of also being a Pomp, especially since the protection message was on Night one.

    As an added note, AggonyDuck also messaged me saying GeneralHankerchief is a praetor. Pompey just revealed him as an optimate. Make of that as you will.

    Sigh, you truly are a fool. The men on that list are men that Pompey wants dead, not a list of optimates.


    A have very strong reason to assume AggonyDuck is an Pompeians or a Consul.

    After gathering some information, it appears there was an exception. While majority of the investigations had senators going to a party, his investigation revealed that he was hosting a party which his supporters attended.

    As to the difference in my PM, it has to do with the fact that I'm a Rich Senator, capable of investigating alone once.
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