Thinking of starting up a new campaign... just 1 thing holding me back.

[Dayve]

Usually VH/M, but i was thinking of trying M/M this time because on VH/M i end up having to fight 10 battles per turn which gets very annoying very quickly.

I know it's impossible to play as Rome and have a challenge, what i'm asking is if anybody has any rules that they use to MAKE IT challenging. I don't enjoy playing as other factions and i always follow the historical expansion of Rome in every campaign, it's what i enjoy doing.

[zooeyglass]

Usually VH/M, but i was thinking of trying M/M this time because on VH/M i end up having to fight 10 battles per turn which gets very annoying very quickly.

I know it's impossible to play as Rome and have a challenge, what i'm asking is if anybody has any rules that they use to MAKE IT challenging. I don't enjoy playing as other factions and i always follow the historical expansion of Rome in every campaign, it's what i enjoy doing.

how about also using the historical (as far as possible) set up of the legions?

also, how about trying M/VH - to give you the challenge in battle but not the overacting hunting AI....

I appreciate you don't enjoy playing other factions, but perhaps you could explain in a bit more detail why that's the case - there's surely another that might suit you a little bit more, esp as you've said you feel the game's won once you hold italy. perhaps a radical change to saba or baktria would spice things up?

[The Celtic Viking]

Uhm... if it's impossible to play as Rome and have a challenge, there's no way to make it challenging. Even if you write "make" in caps. So in other words, you're asking us to do help you do something that, by your own words, cannot be done.

Anyway, you could of course make your own soldiers cost much more to train and keep. You could also edit the script so that when you get more than x money, y money will be removed from your coffers until you've got less than x again. Or you can take off those Romani blindfolds and try another faction. If you won't edit this, and won't just choose to wait with creating a new army, and won't play as another faction, and... just... won't... then this thread serves no other purpose than for you to mask your bitching and whining about there being no challenge under the guise of a plea for help.

I'm sorry if I'm being too much of a Frank here, but it just feels too much like you're complaining about a problem that you've brought on yourself.

[The Wandering Scholar]

A comedy of errors from Dayve. So you say it is too easy, so you reduce the difficulty? Something wrong there Dayvey. Why don't you try using armies of peasants?

[Obelics]

hi dave, try to use this:

- never Retrain troops as Romans, just merge it, even the troops you use as garrison inside the towns, that make more challenge. If you have not the money to train a new unit you cant merge it with an old one.
- always start a siege the turn just after you attack the town.
- before to siege a town, try to pur a spy there inside so he open the gates, and you have to take the town with no siege engines, that's really difficult!
- dont attack a faction that is neutral, never betray an ally etc.
- leave chartage the time to grow up as a power.

- never do sea invasion for luck! for example you cant just put all your best trined troops on a single transport ship and sent them to take Chartage...
You have to disembark in the neighbours of a province you want to attack, and you can just siege the town, 1 or 2 turns after. So wait 2 turns before to start the siege of a town in a province you invaded via sea.
- you can't do naval invasion, like above, with just a transport ship, but you have to gain Talassokratia (dominion of the seas) at first! That means that i cant invade chartage if i have not the wealthy to afford a great flot of war-ships, and i "must" have control of the sea, at last for the sea-part between me and the province i want to take.

- try to use some thought stacks, this means, not all Triari, or principes stacks, but use allied units and skirmishers too.
- Just one unit of Slingers! Not more! If you can train some archers, try to use them instead of slingers.

i dont know if this can be useful, that's what im using at last in my current campaign. Hope there is something that can be of some use. It was just what come in my mind now BTW.

salut!

[LorDBulA]

I know it's impossible to play as Rome and have a challenge, what i'm asking is if anybody has any rules that they use to MAKE IT

To add to Obelics post:

VH/VH difficulty.
Huge unit size. Only General Camera, even in sieges.
No river battles ( unless attacking ).
Dont use captains to do battles.

This will make campagne very hard, and long.
I just dont know if you can handle this.

There is always a way to make it more challenging if you really want to do.

[Redmeth]

Once 1.1 is out I've been thinking of starting a Roman H/H campaign using general camera, the problem with general camera is that you miss out on a lot of great angles of troops fighting but it sure does increase the challenge...

[LorDBulA]

But you get unique perspective on the battlefield.
Plus lots of great cavalry charges from close up :) (for mounted generals).
Actually I see more close up combat while playing with General Camera since with TW camera most of the time I spend high up in the sky.

[Dayve]

hi dave, try to use this:

- never Retrain troops as Romans, just merge it, even the troops you use as garrison inside the towns, that make more challenge. If you have not the money to train a new unit you cant merge it with an old one.
- always start a siege the turn just after you attack the town.
- before to siege a town, try to pur a spy there inside so he open the gates, and you have to take the town with no siege engines, that's really difficult!
- dont attack a faction that is neutral, never betray an ally etc.
- leave chartage the time to grow up as a power.

- never do sea invasion for luck! for example you cant just put all your best trined troops on a single transport ship and sent them to take Chartage...
You have to disembark in the neighbours of a province you want to attack, and you can just siege the town, 1 or 2 turns after. So wait 2 turns before to start the siege of a town in a province you invaded via sea.
- you can't do naval invasion, like above, with just a transport ship, but you have to gain Talassokratia (dominion of the seas) at first! That means that i cant invade chartage if i have not the wealthy to afford a great flot of war-ships, and i "must" have control of the sea, at last for the sea-part between me and the province i want to take.

- try to use some thought stacks, this means, not all Triari, or principes stacks, but use allied units and skirmishers too.
- Just one unit of Slingers! Not more! If you can train some archers, try to use them instead of slingers.

i dont know if this can be useful, that's what im using at last in my current campaign. Hope there is something that can be of some use. It was just what come in my mind now BTW.

salut!

Thankyou very much. I was getting tired of the barrage of crap people were throwing at me up until this post, this is all i really wanted, you know, what i asked for.

Big thanks to Titus as well, i'll definately try that in battled, never thought of that before. :)