Some greek names are wrong ( I think)

**Hooahguy** · 03-06-2008, 04:47

why dont you put it in the FAQ?

**PershsNhpios** · 03-06-2008, 05:27

Yeah, put it in the FAQ - but write it in Greek!

Pardon me, Attic!

**Tiberius Nero** · 03-06-2008, 06:50

The only mistake in Greek I have seen in EB is about Zeus' statue in Olympia called "Zoanon" instead of "Xoanon"; well I suppose this comes from the undying habit of most native English speakers to pronounce Greek Ξ (= ks, as in accept)) as they pronounce English X (that is, like z oftentimes), when in fact usually those represent completely different sounds.

Also a few of the Greek personal names that come up look a bit bizzare at times, I am not sure if all of these are attested, but other than that everything is in perfect order.

Still quite unsure what mistakes the original poster is refering to, an example would help.

P.S. You can p.m. me in Greek with them, if you are not too comfortable with English, that is modern Greek...

**Ibrahim** · 03-06-2008, 06:58

Originally Posted by Glenn

Yeah, put it in the FAQ - but write it in Greek!

Pardon me, Attic!

Here here!

this disscuccion is indeed old-seen many of them (2 or 3); might as well put a "monthly koine greek" page as well (like the monthly lorica segmentata page).

but this gets me wondering: what is the difference between koine and attic? can someone also tell me about doric vs. attic, just as a bonus; I'm trying to learn attic, got the nouns but verbs are confusing. also tackling old persian, germanic, sanskrit, and south arabian (actually looking for specific words); anyone knows where to get info on them?

to anyone who will help.

**Tiberius Nero** · 03-06-2008, 07:09

Koine is the evolution of Attic Greek; it features somewhat simplified grammar and syntax and it ends up being pronounced a lot different than Attic. The modern Greek pronunciation is very close if not identical to what the Koine ended up sounding like. The orthography didn't change though and hasn't changed to this day.

Doric Greek and Attic Greek are two dialects of the same language; they are mutually intelligible with some effort, think of the relation like that between Geordi and Cockney English, both evolving from a common ancestral language. If you want specifics of the phonetic correspondences and grammatical variations that would get too technical indeed, if you don't have some knowledge of Attic at least (dunno if you do).

**Ibrahim** · 03-06-2008, 07:30

Thanks!

if you know the technicals-send them to di.nof.elis@hotmail.com if you can E-mail. that will come handy-if you know them

**Tiberius Nero** · 03-06-2008, 07:35

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

Thanks!

if you know the technicals-send them to di.nof.elis@hotmail.com if you can E-mail. that will come handy-if you know them

I will p.m. you in a while with some examples then. :)

**Disciple of Tacitus** · 03-06-2008, 07:39

Sorry to hi-jack this thread. I'm with Ibrahim and if possible, would like to ask a few questions. general knowledge stuff as I am not so smart.

1) Attic greek comes from which geographical area? (I know ... attic, but could you locate it on the EB map for reference?) ((i kind of know this answer, but it sets up the other questions))

2) Doric Greek comes from which geographical area?

3) Koine means ... what? And why is the KH faction called thusly. (yes, I just wanted to say "thusly")

I appreciate your

! I don't want to take up any of the EB team's time. As we are all awaiting for 1.1. Well, that is after I get a good KH campaign in on 1.0, and then a Lusotannon campaign, oh yeah, a Sweboz too oh and then a ...

**Tiberius Nero** · 03-06-2008, 08:09

1. Attica, the region around Athens.
2. Doric is spoken in many regions, most prominent is the region of Sparta, but Doric colonies are found in Asia minor, Krete, Sicily and probably elsewhere.
3. Koine=Common (feminine gender of adjective koinos). Koinon Hellenon is supposed to be transalated like "Greek Commonwealth" or something (koinon is the neuter of the adjective).

@Ibrahim: pmed you.