Commentaries on the forum

[Matinius Brutus]

I just read this topic:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79193

I never thought it was so demanding of you guys, which is why I am even more grateful to you for the job you are doing. Although I understand your drive (the pure desire to see something you are doing right) I don't think I could have it in me to do something like that demanding even if I could.

I also found out many at the EB team feel irritated by some comments on the forum. It is selfish, I know, but this makes some of them leave the project, which doesn't help the mod to develop as well and quickly as it could. And that is what we want. I am not a historian, and my knowledge is pure amateurish, which is why I engulf every piece of info the game offers (including the forums), and I enjoy reading the discussions, because I can see a few points of view on the specific matter. But not when it is done by pure stubbornness. Like the threads about new factions. The team has explained more than once why certain factions won't get in the game, and there are still people insisting on them.Not to mention the "monthly" LS threads. The team is putting so much efforts into this and some people cannot be bothered to read the FAQ or the info in the forum?!
My point with the upper is: Guys we are enjoying those lads labor. If we cannot help them, let's at least let them know we appreciate their work. Not the opposite. Besides it is our common interest.

I don't want to start another thread like the one above, which was closed, so I wouldn't mind locking this one.
Good job! You have made countless hours much more exciting than thy would have been!

[Maeran]

Yes yes,

As much as I do love EB, and the historical detail involved. There is only a certain amount of adoration that I can stomach.

Hopefully the EB team know that they are appreciated. Hell, we care enough to hound this forum, and sometimes even contribute financially (if you haven't and you wouldn't mind giving a bit, please look at the stickied threads)

But there is only so much adoration you can get in before it reeks of sycophancy you realise.

[underthesun]

Oh, I love EB, but you realize that things don't improve without criticism and discussion. If you have something to say, say it, and then all parties involved can reach a better understanding and thus make EB better.

[Watchman]

Yeah, well, there's constructive criticism, and then there's just being asinine. Too much of the latter has a tendency to create enough of a hedgehog reflex for the former to have trouble getting through too.

Especially if the formulation is careless.

[underthesun]

Well yeah, there's of course the difference between "Hey, I really think that x should be y, and here are my reasons" and "OMFG WTF WHY IS IT LIKE THAT?!@@!!!!!!!1!!!1111"

[Watchman]

IMHO "X should be Y because..." is already a fairly abrasive formulation - it has a certain undertone of issuing a demand, you know ?

I'd personally go with something along the lines of "shouldn't" and similar enquiring and more neutral wordings.

Alas, it tends to be the shouting that's the most common.