Baktrian Doryphoroi?

[Theodotos I]

All right, I know everyone on the EB team is probably sick of these questions by now, but what about the Baktrian Doryphoroi mentioned in the faction description. They are described as a well-armored and elite unit, “whose spears and bows make them one of the most intriguing units available anywhere.” But that’s the problem, they’re not available anywhere. They’re not listed in the RV, they’re nowhere in the MICs. Were they axed for historical reasons, or are they a 1.1 addition? Thanks for anything you can tell me on this.

[paullus]

From the faction description:

A variety of skirmishers are also available, including well armored and elite units as well as the Baktrian Doryphoroi, whose spears and bows make them one of the most intriguing units available anywhere.

The Baktrian doryphoroi are better known as Nizagan-i Eranshahr. To save unit space, we just use the same native name for all the variants, even though the Baktrian kings would have referred to them as doryphoroi, as long as they weren't just calling them barbaroi.

Thanks for pointing that out though, we'll have to see about changing the faction description.

[Theodotos I]

From the faction description:



The Baktrian doryphoroi are better known as Nizagan-i Eranshahr. To save unit space, we just use the same native name for all the variants, even though the Baktrian kings would have referred to them as doryphoroi, as long as they weren't just calling them barbaroi.

Thanks for pointing that out though, we'll have to see about changing the faction description.

Okay, thanks a lot. To tell the truth, I wondered if they weren't one and the same, but the description seemed to imply elite soldiers. Guess I was wrong. Thanks again for answering.

[Woreczko]

“whose spears and bows make them one of the most intriguing units available anywhere.”

That passage is not true either. Spear-armed archers are quite common - germans, celts, getai, saba - they all have acces to such units. :)

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I think it was written before the others all made it into the game.

[The Persian Cataphract]

That passage is not true either. Spear-armed archers are quite common - germans, celts, getai, saba - they all have acces to such units. :)

Except, the Iranian archer-spearmen not only excel with their bows, but their low cost and vast recruitment area makes them one of the most accessible, as well as versatile units available to any commander; Sotaroas carry simple bows with little punch. The same largely applies to the Skutjanz. The Arabian light archer-spearmen and the Komatai Toxotai are however quite comparable, though none of them boasts the equivalent recruitment area.

It can be a decisive difference once you have that Persianate empire. They are cheap garrison troops with excellent range; Against light horse, they are some of the finest troops available.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Don't the Arabs have a better range, though? They nearly always outshoot my slingers and never have had that happen with the Persians....

[Justinian II]

From the faction description:



The Baktrian doryphoroi are better known as Nizagan-i Eranshahr. To save unit space, we just use the same native name for all the variants, even though the Baktrian kings would have referred to them as doryphoroi, as long as they weren't just calling them barbaroi.

Thanks for pointing that out though, we'll have to see about changing the faction description.

The description says "armored" and the Nizagan-i Eranshahr are decidedly not, though....was there originally going to be an armored version?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

"armored" units *as well as* the doryphoroi. That doesn't mean the doryphoroi is armored at all.