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    Incorruptible Forest Manager Member Tristuskhan's Avatar
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    Default Parthian discount on cavalry?

    I saw in an "old" thread a list of events (more some kind of achievements), including, for Pahlava, Shahenshah and something like "parthian cavalry discount"


    I already had ShahanShah (conquest of Persia), but I have no idea what is required to get the second scripted event.Has anyone ever heard about it?
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    You already have it. When recruiting cavalry you get some money back by the script.

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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    That's interesting. Why, though? Just curious. And....how much? (And more, do the other HA factions get this benefit too?)


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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Cool. Does it mean that I train Aorsi nobles (for exemple, I love this unit) for a better price than Sauromatae or the (forgotten) Sakae? Or does the money come back in the "corruption and other" compartment of the financial screen?
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Nomad Cavalry could have some more men per unit so that it would represent some vast Stepe cavalry armies in a new light

    As I am aware of noticing or realizing, Stepe armies always had much more men per cavalry unit that ''regular'' (hellenic/roman/gaul/german/african/indian) cavalry units
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
    That's interesting. Why, though? Just curious. And....how much? (And more, do the other HA factions get this benefit too?)
    It's there to encourage using more cavalry for factions that used a lot of it. And the reason why they used such a lot of it is that they had less cost of keeping horses: there were prime grazing lands all over.

    The discount is 275 per unit upon training, as long as it is trained in lands supporting horses (IE not in Spain or Egypt). All steppe factions get this discount. It shows up as "Other" in the financial scroll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maksimus
    Nomad Cavalry could have some more men per unit so that it would represent some vast Stepe cavalry armies in a new light
    No. It would take unit slots that are not available.
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    No. It would take unit slots that are not available.
    I ment this

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    voice_type General_1
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    officer ebofficer_dracones
    mount medium horse
    mount_effect chariot +3
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    stat_health 1, 2
    stat_pri 5, 12, arrow, 187, 40, missile, archery, piercing, none, 15 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 10, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.13
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    stat_pri_armour 1, 7, 0, flesh
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 0
    stat_ground 0, 0, -3, -2
    stat_mental 9, normal, trained
    stat_charge_dist 50
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 1296, 324, 60, 90, 1296
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Didn't we go over that once already ? Does not compute.
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    Default Re: Parthian discount on cavalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maksimus
    Nomad Cavalry could have some more men per unit so that it would represent some vast Stepe cavalry armies in a new light

    As I am aware of noticing or realizing, Stepe armies always had much more men per cavalry unit that ''regular'' (hellenic/roman/gaul/german/african/indian) cavalry units
    I don`t think this was the case. Don`t be fooled by RTW combat engine, where horses behave like men. Horses can`t walk sideways and can`t turn in place without much hassle. They walk backwards with great difficulty. Maneuvering a cavalry unit is a very difficult thing and horse archers thrive on outmaneuvering their oppponents (while shooting them down in the proces). HA would probably employ in smaller units than typical melee cavalry to facilitate maneuvers.

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