Auto-ceasefire with the pope?

[I of the Storm]

Repeatedly I have read here that people manage to get an auto ceasefire with the pope after siegeing him in the papal states (his last province) until the last possible turn (i.e. when "it's about to fall") and then pulling out.
I did that.
I did not get an auto ceasefire.

Come to think of it, I'm not surprised. auto cf's only happen due to lack of contact. A surrounded last province, albeit unsieged, isn't exactly lack of contact.

On the other hand, this would be the only way to fulfill the roman empire GA without having to spend the rest of the game excommed and at war with the pope.

So: Auto-Ceasefire: Myth or Reality ?

[Youngie]

i Would say its a myth. i to also tryed this and could never get a ceasefire of them. I am a fan of giving the pope his little papal state to keep him happy. You could fight the reemergences there all well and good they offer up vital training for generals. but i find this is not wise if you are a your a catholic faction.

[macsen rufus]

It usually works every time for me - if a castle is under siege by your forces you can withdraw from the province and so long as the besieged enemy doesn't sally, contact is broken. Obviously it depends on the besieged faction's entire army being in that castle, and the presence of any ships can also maintain contact if they are in a sea region next to one of your territories or a sea region you control.

I've done this many times with the Pope to keep him holed up in the Papal States.

[Caerfanan]

Yes, but that doesn't put you at peace with the guy, right? You just leave the province, if not by water and removing the boats, you don't get the cease fire, do you?

EDIT: Oh... If the only contact is by land and that's the last province, it works??
EDIT2: yes, I'm learning to read!

[I of the Storm]

So, in that specific case it's important NOT to have ships in the adriatic sea? And also if the papacy has ships running around it's going to be difficult, right?

[macsen rufus]

Right That siege really needs to be your only point of contact.

Edit: It just occured to me that is probably why it works best if you do it with a re-emerged Papacy -- they haven't had time to build any ships yet