British Invasions

**Maeran** · 03-08-2008, 05:40

I suspect that this thread will not receive a measured response, and I mean no disrespect to the academic expertise of those who know a damn sight more than I do. I am also aware that a lot of the foundation for the Britons was laid by Ranika, who is not available to discuss the matter.

But I must register the following dissension.

Most (of not all) of the British ethnicities refer to invasions between 800 and 200 BC. This follows the 1920s 'beaker' invasion hypothesis.

However, I have not read anything recent (originally published within the last 15 or so years, except for clearly partisan works from "celtic" countries) that agrees with the idea of large scale invasions of Britain by the "Celtic" tribes seen there when the Romans invade. Indeed, the genetic evidence suggests continuity with the ancient, neolithic (and earlier) population.

I'm not averse to cultural influence from the continent, but is there sufficient evidence for the 'strong' invasion context given by the in game ethnicities for my native people (technically Brigantes, but you get the idea)?

**PershsNhpios** · 03-08-2008, 13:19

I, for one, shall answer you - brave contributor!

Salute!

**underthesun** · 03-08-2008, 13:48

I'm sorry, it just applies here, I had to do it...

**Watchman** · 03-08-2008, 13:53

IIRC there wasn't anything particularly suggesting any sort of mass movement above and beyond the usual transfer of "elite"- level personnel and cultural osmosis that the spread of "becoming Celtic" in almost all cases consisted of anyway. AFAIK the Celts were always a culture-group, not some genetically distinct ethnic group.

...and might I add, the wording could probably been a bit less barbed ?

**PershsNhpios** · 03-08-2008, 13:58

Sorry, Armenian thread aside - what was that picture underthesun?

It didn't load for me there's just a red cross, (Multiplication cross), inside a little white box.

Or is that it?

Could you describe it to me?

**underthesun** · 03-08-2008, 14:03

It's a picture of a rather frightening looking cat, with the text "Conservative cat does not like your new ideas"

HEre, this one may work:

**PershsNhpios** · 03-08-2008, 14:30

That is the best internet feline photo I have ever seen!

Look at that white residue on his lips.. He's on the take.

This certainly isn't a conservative thread!

**Watchman** · 03-08-2008, 14:42

Originally Posted by Maeran

...but is there sufficient evidence for the 'strong' invasion context given by the in game ethnicities for my native people (technically Brigantes, but you get the idea)?

...I don't know about you, but this kind of thing tends to raise some warning flags in my head.