Oklahoma House Bill 2211

**Tribesman** · 03-13-2008, 11:57

I take it this legislation is a throwback to the story of the student getting her microphone cutoff during her speech at a school ceremony .
There nust be an election coming up as this seems to address the issue(good publicity for the religeous vote) yet it fails to doing so (thats politics

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**KukriKhan** · 03-13-2008, 12:53

Originally Posted by Tribesman

There nust be an election coming up as this seems to address the issue(good publicity for the religeous vote) yet it fails to doing so (thats politics

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Indeed. Both Reynolds (sponsor) and Kern (co-sponsor and speaker of youTube anti-gay ranting fame) are up for re-election in November, this year.

**woad&fangs** · 03-13-2008, 13:05

On the topic of religious test answers: If the student really cares that much then they can just write According to Modern Science before all of the answers they religiously disagree with. Or the teachers can put "according to modern science" in test questions that might conflict with the teachings of major religions. Since a lot of science is actually theory instead of fact this might be a good way to go anyways.

just a thought.

**KukriKhan** · 03-13-2008, 13:12

Side issue: if passed, as woads&fangs points out the onus will be on teachers to be more creative in devising tests to get their desired results; Oklahoma ranks 47th (out of 50) in Teacher payscale. They make less money than a Mailman Link.

**Vladimir** · 03-13-2008, 13:40

DC teachers are some of the highest paid yet have some of the poorest performing students. Quite often you'll find that funding for education and quality of education are inversely proportional.

**KukriKhan** · 03-13-2008, 14:03

Originally Posted by Vladimir

DC teachers are some of the highest paid yet have some of the poorest performing students. Quite often you'll find that funding for education and quality of education are inversely proportional.

Point taken. I haven't looked up OK's "No Child Left Behind" performance... yet

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Feb 2008 article:

...Spellings said 88 percent of Oklahoma's 1,789 schools meet the No Child Left Behind standards compared to 70 percent nationally...

Better than Calif.

**Tribesman** · 03-13-2008, 14:54

DC teachers are some of the highest paid yet have some of the poorest performing students.

Is there a very obvious reason for that ? Would that reason hold true for any capital or major city ?

Quite often you'll find that funding for education and quality of education are inversely proportional.

Is there a very obvious reason for that ?

Indeed. Both Reynolds (sponsor) and Kern (co-sponsor and speaker of youTube anti-gay ranting fame) are up for re-election in November, this year.

Well its only fair isn't it , since Kern is very fundmentalist in her interpretations of scriture I wonder how long until she demands ritual cleansing and seperate facilities so that people are not contaminated by female students having periods . Perhaps even hrow in some sacraficing of doves for good measure .
After all if schools can provide kosher or halal services why can't they provide for an absolute literalist christian fundamentalist requirement...after all it is that literalist approach that is the subject of debate in relation to science education .

**Big_John** · 03-13-2008, 20:53

Originally Posted by KukriKhan

Point taken. I haven't looked up OK's "No Child Left Behind" performance... yet

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Feb 2008 article:

Better than Calif.

no child left behind is a

joke, btw. the states that perform better under NCLB are the ones that are better at gaming the system. NCLB is the epitome of the the anti-academic bureaucracy that has ruined public schools in this country over the last few decades.