Wait for 1.3 before beginning M2:TW?

**Ramses II CP** · 03-18-2008, 18:08

To clarify, there aren't any significant crash bugs or other serious problems with running MTW2 version 1.2/1.3 AFAIK. The types of bugs we're talking about are gameplay bugs that tend to make campaigns rather easy, or irritating but rare bugs that are annoying, but not campaign breaking, and there are quite a number of mods to take care of those issues.

Information on the next patch is actually pretty thin. As announced it's only to address some of the more obvious issues in Kingdoms and will do nothing for vanilla.

**Nebuchadnezzar** · 03-19-2008, 08:18

Well, thats one side of the argument. There are at least 3 crash bugs that I'm aware off. The reinforcement+wooden wall crash is well enough documented.

Also it seems players using intel chips experience a relatively stable game whereas AMD owners often complain of occasional or even regular unexplained crashes.

As for bugs I would not consider them rare but abundant. Just check the bug thread to get the idea. Perhaps not game breaking but definately frustrating.

**Ramses II CP** · 03-19-2008, 15:00

I'm not disputing that there are still bugs, and some of them are extremely frustrating, but IMHO the average user is going to be more annoyed by the pathetic AI, the constant pathing problems, and the advisor who just won't stay turned off. I've played the game for not quite a year now and had two crashes (Admittedly I know about and avoid the wooden walls bug), both of which could've been related to other tasks I was doing in the background. That's exactly why I call the crash bugs insignificant.

The game is about as stable as games get. The gameplay bugs aren't, IMHO, as frustrating as some of the deliberate features, like the disconnected strategic and diplomatic AI.

There are a lot of good reasons not to buy MTW2 and especially Kingdoms, but I don't think bugs are one of them. My 2 cents.

**Old Geezer** · 03-21-2008, 16:32

Oh my, there is a reinforcement-wooden-wall-bug crash? And I was just getting used to the 1 in 30 CTDs upon loading a field battle. (I think there are no bugs - just Microsoft "features".) I guess after Darklands ver 7, I am inured to such. Pathfinding is a problem at times. I could pretend that it is just a realistic command control problem, but deep down I know it's Bill Gates' fault.

**_Tristan_** · 03-21-2008, 16:45

While I will agree that there are some bugs in this game (M2TW) , I won't go as far as call them abundant... Most are hardly noticeable unless they are pointed to you (like the renowned shield bug...)

As to chips-related crashes, I play M2TW both an on dual-core AMD and a dual-core INTEL and have yet to see any crashes...

Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar

Also it seems players using intel chips experience a relatively stable game whereas AMD owners often complain of occasional or even regular unexplained crashes.

**Nebuchadnezzar** · 03-22-2008, 04:19

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

As to chips-related crashes, I play M2TW both an on dual-core AMD and a dual-core INTEL and have yet to see any crashes...

Yes I know, its my hardware.

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

While I will agree that there are some bugs in this game (M2TW) , I won't go as far as call them abundant... Most are hardly noticeable unless they are pointed to you (like the renowned shield bug...)

As I said we all have different opinions. I do in fact notice them and I have no-one pointing them out to me.

**Mek Simmur al Ragaski** · 03-26-2008, 14:50

There arent that many bugs in M2TW, im playing the original with no mods (i have no idea how to install them) im just gonna buy kingdoms to fix the problems.