Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
I agree. Did I communicate some other idea?
Not quite, see below.

Here is the part that is fuzzy to me. Are we saying that a divine being, whom we call the Son, existed along side the Father?

I can't agree with that because it diminishes the divinity of the Son and seperates the identity of the Son from the Father. Either the Son is God or he isn't God.
He doesn't exist alongside because He cannot be divided. However, if the Son did not exist in the Beggining he is not co-eternal with the Father and the Holy Ghost. Then he would be less. God the Son might also be termed the "voice" of God, his means of communicating with his creation on our restricted level.

My real problem with the traditionally accepted viewpoint of the Trinity is the narrow language used to describe each. I think the titles used effectively serve a population that is incapable of thinking critically as historically has been the case with humanity. However, as we have developed and grown as beings, our intellectual capacity for understanding the nature of Christ, God, and the Spirit has also developed and grown.

So why cling to antiquated and indescriptive terminology when more thoughtful and consequential analysis can be applied?
We're two fairly bright guys here. How do you explain the metaphyisical and philosophical arguements to a child? You need a relatively simple way of dealing with the concepts on some level.


In our modern era, if we believers fail to demonstrate the relationship of God to humanity and existence in a way that is scientific and analytical, we undermine the very purpose that God has created for us. In challenging convention and growing spiritually and intellectually, we are able to breach the walls of theory and mystery and enter into a new reality and a new relationship with the Lord.
Dissagree, ultimately God requires blind faith, he doesn't ever have to expalin or justify Himself or His actions. We can defend our faith against people who claim to have disproved it but we should seek a dogmatic physical proof. This is especially true if you believe faith is required in order to enter heaven. Prove God exists and you destroy faith, everyone goes to Hell.