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    That's a name, not a 'word'. Not quite the same thing.

    And, yes, although some databases may be clever enough to offer you a "did you mean...?" alternative, getting one letter wrong does matter. Especially if it's flat out wrong and not, say, an alternative spelling (eg. equipment - equipement).
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    Cool! Hax spawned a multi-lingual spelling debate.

    @Tiberius: what do you think about Seleukeis (as explained in my previous post) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
    Cool! Hax spawned a multi-lingual spelling debate.

    @Tiberius: what do you think about Seleukeis (as explained in my previous post) ?
    Well, I stopped posting, because it was indeed irrelevant to the thread, but since you ask... ;)

    I can only comment on the grammar, as I don't have access to a recent LSJ here. "Seleukeus" (Seleukeis plural) as a patronymic seems fine and so is "Seleukides" (Seleukidai plural); "Seleukeios "as a patronymic is very unlikely. My impression is that the English term "Seleucid" has influenced the decision to use the extremely rare (as you said) "Seleukidai" in favor of the more common "Seleukeis", but as to whether you should go changing the name of the faction now, I can't say.

    btw, "seleukis (gen: seleukid-os)" can probably be applied to a number of distinctive objects from the region. My LSJ gives 1) some kind of women's shoes, 2) a kind of cup, 3) a kind of trireme, 4) a kind of bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Frost
    Same could then be said in the current system {being sure there was a Katatank in the enemy stack} .
    It might be possible however to deduce if a stack has a general in it and whist it could be a merc general , it is most likely a family member instead and for the factions in question that is a reasonable way to assume "Kats were here" .

    Even so , it might be better to base it on how many battles against the Katafactions in which you lose x% of men {win or lose} . The game seems to be able to deduce such stats judging by some vanilla VnVs . Lets say 10 battles where you {or the A.I.} lose say 1/3 of your army {against the Kat using factions} and there is a good chance you {or the A.I.} will have faced Kats and have a reasonable excuse to develop them yourself . Then require a Family member to survive such a battle whom has the Sharp VnV to get the Katfetish VnV .
    Certainly it could use tweaking , but perhaps it would work .


    Having to play on large or huge sizes means for some the reform will never happen which is a shame for those with Kmart computers {pity the underprivileged gamers } .








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    sorry hax-you have lost your conversation killing abilities muwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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    *Ibrahim sows minefields, builds mg nests, brings in the hashshaashin, and hires the Auxilia praeventores*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
    Well, I stopped posting, because it was indeed irrelevant to the thread, but since you ask... ;)

    I can only comment on the grammar, as I don't have access to a recent LSJ here. "Seleukeus" (Seleukeis plural) as a patronymic seems fine and so is "Seleukides" (Seleukidai plural); "Seleukeios "as a patronymic is very unlikely. My impression is that the English term "Seleucid" has influenced the decision to use the extremely rare (as you said) "Seleukidai" in favor of the more common "Seleukeis", but as to whether you should go changing the name of the faction now, I can't say.

    Thanks!

    btw, "seleukis (gen: seleukid-os)" can probably be applied to a number of distinctive objects from the region. My LSJ gives 1) some kind of women's shoes, 2) a kind of cup, 3) a kind of trireme, 4) a kind of bird.
    Not to mention that Seleukis appears to have been a 'favourable' ship's name... (Just like Antiognis.)
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    This is similar to the op topic, and ive looked through the forum and couldnt find detailed instuctions on how to get the cataphract reforms. Ive heard you need at least 250 men (on small unit size? so multiply by 4 for huge units size?), and 2 different generals to loose. Ive also heard you need certain odds, for the enemy to have lots of cats in the army you lose to, and for your general to get an impressed by cats and beaten by cats trait. Also, could i jsut build 2 armies of 1 general, and 9 levy hellenic spearmen and have that lose to trigger the reform, or do i have to have better troops.

    So, do both generals have to die, in two differnet battles, or do they have to jsut lose some of their bodyguard and still live but lose the battle, and how much of the stuff in paragraph one is true. Im playing the seleukid campaign, its 220 bc, and ive pushed armenia out to northern georgia and am fighting against a very large baktrian kingdom, and i would like to get my reform.

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    Default Re: I really HATE AS cataphract reform

    Detailed instructions on how to get the cataphract reform:
    Play the game.
    If you happen to lose, you may get them. If you don't, you don't need them.
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