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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
    Nope - iirc, the Earth itself has been around for 4 billion years, cellular life only appeared approximately 2 billion years ago.
    Earth is around 5 and there is evidence to suggest life began between three and four billion. Almost as soon as it could, it did. You're thinking cellular; is that eukaryotic or prokaryotic? Point is the date keeps being pushed back and is far different from computing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Earth is around 5 and there is evidence to suggest life began between three and four billion. Almost as soon as it could, it did. You're thinking cellular; is that eukaryotic or prokaryotic? Point is the date keeps being pushed back and is far different from computing.
    Touche - upon further reading, there are prokaryote fossils dating from approximately 3.5 billion years ago (give or take a couple hundred million years).

    But ultimately i should be more coherent and specific in my point, in that i'm referring to multi-cellular life with the basis for a brain, no matter how primitive. Thus, the human brain hasn't been in development for however many years it can finally be agreed on that life has been around for - the human brain has been in development since whenever the first multi-cellular life developed a nervous system.

    But that still doesn't answer my question - where did Reise's comment on 7 billion years come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
    Touche - upon further reading, there are prokaryote fossils dating from approximately 3.5 billion years ago (give or take a couple hundred million years).

    But ultimately i should be more coherent and specific in my point, in that i'm referring to multi-cellular life with the basis for a brain, no matter how primitive. Thus, the human brain hasn't been in development for however many years it can finally be agreed on that life has been around for - the human brain has been in development since whenever the first multi-cellular life developed a nervous system.

    But that still doesn't answer my question - where did Reise's comment on 7 billion years come from?
    Yea, I watch way too much science channel. There have been successful experiments where rat brain cells were used to control computer chips. The computer isn't a brain, but a product of and tool for the brain. He also said "several" not seven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    He also said "several" not seven.
    Thank you.
    sev·er·al /ˈsɛvərəl, ˈsɛvrəl/ –adjective
    1. being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind:

    Maybe I stretched the definition of the word and 'few' would have been more appropriate, but I meant between 2-4. I didn't know the exact number and didn't feel like looking it up. 2 billion or 5 billion, it it doesn't matter compared to 60 years or whatever, 10^1 vs 10^9 = damn, who cares what the multiplier is.
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    And now from a debate on how long life has been about, i swiftly bring it to the English language - since when does 'several' mean 2-4? TO my knowledge, several has always meant seven of something i.e i have several buns

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    [1]: What the daisy are you fighting over ?!
    Buns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
    And now from a debate on how long life has been about, i swiftly bring it to the English language - since when does 'several' mean 2-4? TO my knowledge, several has always meant seven of something i.e i have several buns

    Several means two or more and generally used for an approximation.

    The brain is a set of specialised cells. There development (RNA/DNA) can be linked back to the first set of cells not just neural pathways. One evolved from the other, it doesn't stop the process starting at inception of cells.
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    Default Re: Why Brains Are Different From Computers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
    And now from a debate on how long life has been about, i swiftly bring it to the English language - since when does 'several' mean 2-4? TO my knowledge, several has always meant seven of something i.e i have several buns

    Never heard of that. Several has always just meant a "couple" to me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Never heard of that. Several has always just meant a "couple" to me.
    You must be a Mormon then. A couple is two. Like a married couple.


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