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    Default # of men in units

    I'd like to know if there is any way to change the number of men in a unit.

    It's for the purpose of finding out if a Iphikratean Phalanx could beat a legion cohort if they were on equal footing.

    please advise.

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    In that case step away from EB and build a time machine.
    EB (great as it is) is still a game.

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    why don't you use the least common multiple between the number of men in the iphicratean phalanx and the number of men in the legion? then use as many units as required on each side.

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    Go to the rome total war folder, then the EB folder, then the DATA folder
    Open export_descr_unit
    Search for the unit you want to make the changes and change the number of soldiers in the "soldier" line
    for example:


    soldier carthaginian_cavalry_sacredband, 25, 0, 1 (there are 25 soldiers in this unit, in normal or small settings i think, in huge setting it's 4X this value)
    If you change 25 to 30 you will now have 120 soldiers in huge settings

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    Default Re: # of men in units

    based on this, can I make a unit 256 men (trick question, but do answer)
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    Default Re: # of men in units

    what is the maximum unit size, anyway?

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    Guessing 240, as I'm CERTAIN if we could create a 600 man legion the EB people would have made it so.

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    240 is the hardcoded limit, with 3 officers at the most.
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    is it possible to create any number under 240 (e.g: 65 or 77 (on large scale))?
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    Eh --

    Yeah, why not?
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    I was worried-I heard about the harcoding and all and I feared I couldn't modify numbers
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    Default Re: # of men in units

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim
    is it possible to create any number under 240 (e.g: 65 or 77 (on large scale))?
    not any number. the number is set on the EDU for normal size and then multiplied x2 for large setting and x3 x4 for huge setting. 77 for example is not possibile
    also you can't go down certain values (don't remember which ones atm)
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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
    then how is thus explained? the savaran in BI are really big and the size is unseen by any other unit in BI (or IBFD) *Ibrahim confused and out of focus*
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    "Big" as in...?
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    don't remember 59 I guess, but it was big for cavalry, even on large size (it's on IBFD flagellum dei, the one that starts in 410AD)
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    If it's FM bodyguard, it gets bonus men based on the guy's personal security and Influence scores on top of the base size...
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    no no Savaran aren't FM bodyguards..that's the Pushtigban..Savaran are regular army cataphracts.......
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    IB messed up in that respect of giving the Sassanids cavalry units that are f'ing huge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim
    don't remember 59 I guess, but it was big for cavalry, even on large size (it's on IBFD flagellum dei, the one that starts in 410AD)
    savaran in IBFD are 50+2 officers, that means 100+2 with large setting

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    oh I see-thanks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brymht
    what is the maximum unit size, anyway?
    In the descr units its scaled to normal size ie 240 would be 60

    Max is 60 in the EDU
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