Giving away free regions

**Captn. James Crunch** · 03-25-2008, 23:28

How do I give away a region to an ally in game?

It doesn't really matter if it involves cheats, I've been trying desperately to do it for a while. Even after conquering it and offering it as a gift, they refuse

**GaiusJulius** · 03-26-2008, 14:07

Simply have your diplomat "offer region". It helps if he is an accomplished diplomat. Then click on the "hand" which states "offer as a gift."

**Flying Pig** · 03-26-2008, 17:53

They seem to refuse even those on the ground that we will just re-take it! Do they want paying to take your lands or something?

**Captn. James Crunch** · 03-26-2008, 18:00

Yeah I know, that is the problem. Like I said, it doesn't work. When I offer it as a gift they say that they dont have anything to offer in return (I've tried it without troops in the city as well as with).
My diplomat has level 5 of the trait GoodDiplomat as well as some ancillaries.

**Flying Pig** · 03-26-2008, 18:05

I Think you have to a) have great relations with them and b) not be in their victory conditions as MUST KILL.

The AI seems to search for motives and concludes that you are trying to lull them into a false sensse of security. Sometimes demanding money actually makes them more likely to accept!

**Captn. James Crunch** · 03-26-2008, 19:01

I don't think the AI diplomacy is THAT clever, I mean look at how stupid they are with everything else (ie not accepting surrender even when they have no army, are down to one province that is under siege). CA just made it so that the AI doesn't accept proposals that are too one sided, and a giving/recieving provinces has a high value attached to it.

Anyway, I just realized that the solution to my problem is rather simple. I just used a force_diplomacy script and now everything is dandy

**GaiusJulius** · 03-26-2008, 19:10

I've not had any problem with it. Like I said, first have an accomplished diplomat (4 or 5 wreaths at least). It does help if you've got a great relationship with your ally. By that I mean, have you gifted them money a number of times, have your troops assisted them when they ask for military assistance, etc. These all count toward them not suspecting your motives. Mind you now, I actually do have a motive, and that is to stand in the way of another faction for awhile, but the AI doesn't know that.