What battles have you pwned in???

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

This isnt really that good of a victory, but i did hold Castle Town from Scotland, they brought in 4 units of higlanders, 2 units of highland archers and 2 units of spear militia, and i managed to hold them off with a group off with 2 groups of viking raider and some archer peasant militia

I managed to make the fight stay within a cramped alleyway, but my forces were spread out unevenly, and pretty sonn they broke through one end, but hen my archers just filled them up with arrowss, and the scots still decided to try and kill my remaining infantry, i think the only reason my viking raiders didnt break was beacause they had a general with them...

[CynicalP]

A couple nights ago I attack a stack of HRE troops on their way to reinforce Nuremberg. Their forces comprised of 2 heavy cavalry units, 4-5 spear militia, 4 crossbow unit, 2-3 light infantry, 1 heavy infantry and a ballista. My forces comprised of 5 longbowmen, 2 Armoured sergeants, 1 Spear militia, 1 dismounted knight, 1/2 stack of hobilars, 2 catapults, a trebuchet and my general. I lucked out and my army were place on a mountain top over looking some nice little valley. The front of the mountain could not be traversed; instead there was a nice winding path to the top.

Normally the HRE units hold their ground and wait for me to attack, but for some reason the AI wanted to climb that mountain and meet my forces head on. Really bad decision.

I have learnt that trebuchets and catapults are pretty accurate when they are firing downward, usually they miss by a mile. There were some devasting hits into some highly concentrated mass of HRE units.

The longbowmen were just cutting them down as they slowly trudged up the mountain side. By the time they reached my infantry line they lines were so thinned out I charged my line and they started to rout en masse.

I think I lost about 14 soldiers and most of those causalities were result of friendly fire. My hobilars and general cleaned up the routing troops. HRE refused to pay the over three thousand ransom and the prisoners were sent to the gallows ( a very disturbing sound effect I might add ).

[Old Geezer]

Say Eikon, how in the world do you get so many kills with gunners/archers without them running out of ammo? Did you up their ammo? I just fought a battle with 2 units or turkopoles and each one got about 24 kills before running out of arrows.

[PBI]

Remember that you are comparing one of the weaker archery units with one of the strongest gunpowder units. Gunners generally kill at about the same rate as archers but they fire fewer volleys to do so and not every man in the unit fires with each volley, so they take much longer to chew through their ammo, plus there are more men in unit of gunners than a unit of horse archers, and they are armour piercing. I've had a single unit of Portuguese Arquebusiers get upward of 200 kills in a single battle and they only used up about 2/3 of their ammo. True, this was in ideal conditions (firing down into a dense mass of troops held in a bottleneck in good weather) but it's not unusual for them to get up to about 100. If Eikon has 20 gunners, then each one only has to get 50 kills to amass 1000 kills in total, which is quite achievable.

[Old Geezer]

I never could get very good results with the musketeers in the Americas campaign. I did do better with the Portugese. Firing into a densely packed formation does give almost a kill for every shot, esp. at point blank range.


I'd really rather hear about how ya'll have been whupped up on by the AI. I know its rare but sometimes it happens. I once rented 2 elephant units and tried to use them against the Timurids. They both got shot by flaming ballista bolts and ran amok after before they could do any damage to the Timurids. Then they stomped my men so good that the Timurids cleaned up with girls who weren't even old enough to wear birkas. I usually learn a lot more from my defeats and mistakes than my wins. (I have made so many mistakes in my marriage that I am a regular marriage expert.)

[Iñnsomñni]

I never could get very good results with the musketeers in the Americas campaign. I did do better with the Portugese. Firing into a densely packed formation does give almost a kill for every shot, esp. at point blank range.


I'd really rather hear about how ya'll have been whupped up on by the AI. I know its rare but sometimes it happens. I once rented 2 elephant units and tried to use them against the Timurids. They both got shot by flaming ballista bolts and ran amok after before they could do any damage to the Timurids. Then they stomped my men so good that the Timurids cleaned up with girls who weren't even old enough to wear birkas. I usually learn a lot more from my defeats and mistakes than my wins. (I have made so many mistakes in my marriage that I am a regular marriage expert.)

Insane already made a forum like it, here, it is all about the AI getting some intelligence, see for yourself

[Eikon the Magistrate]

No Geezer no additions to MTW2 I actually havent even modded my pikemen yet all I got so far is the TW patch. My musketeers get more kills becuz I feed them
salt pork 4 times a week.

Seriously tho, its mainly due to outflanking the AI and finding ways to trap them in a "net 'o steel" if your gunners are on a nice hill or a gully or a house or trees or you are able to bunch the AI force together....they rapidly become mincemeat.

Id have to differ on the opinion that gunners have the same kill rate as archers however, since Ive not seen many archer units able to decimate a late bodyguard unit in less than a minute but 2 muskets will no problem.