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[Quickening]

Got to agree with the majority here in that the endgame of Total War tends to be very dull. Not only that, but there is so much more to keep track of and I find that if Im deep into a campaign and I leave it for a day or two then when I get back Ive lost the "feel" for it and want to start again.
Martok mentioned Gal Civ 2, at least in that game you have mega events to turn the Galaxy on it's head. Not really an option in the Total War series unless you want to totally throw history to the dogs.
This is one of the many reasons I really love the Kingdoms expansion. Just nice little mini campaigns and it also feels more believable than say, conquering all of Europe as Sicily.

As for Rome versus Med 2, it's a tough one. In fact today I was switching between Rome and Med 2 Kingdoms. For me Rome has a far more epic feel thanks in a large part to the presense of Rome itself and the music. It is also the far more polished game. However Med 2 is basically Rome + in Medieval times which is just awesome.
I just can't decide. Ive got no interest in the time period or the planned features in Empire so I'll be playing Rome and Med 2 for a long time to come yet.

[Gaiseric]

I liked RTW battles better than MTW2. In rtw units tended to stay in formation and not go blindly charging, and get spread out across half the map. World conquest was not as fun for me in rtw, however, unless I played a civilized nation with better building options. Spreading barbarian culture and squalor didn't appeal to me. It's more fun to play the barbarions defensivly and fend off attacks from armoured and disaplined troops.

Micromanagement is one of the reasons I am attracted to strategy games. I like to improve my empire and economy. The TW Series are the best strategy games in terms of letting me defend the factions, empires, and economies that I develop. In similar strategy games, all my time spent on micromanagement can be lost in a dice roll. I gave up the Civ series because I cant control the defense of my cities. Too much micromangement and not enough control.

Still, there are many things in mtw2, that drive me nuts because I don't have control over them. Controling population/squalor, generals traits, diplomacy, naval battles, agent sucess chances, rebels, etc.

I hope that Empires allows more economic options. Then instead of world conquest, my game goals could be to become self sufficient and just defend my boarders from the enemy. I could use diplamacy(warscore) to bring peace instead of having to invade and elimanante all my neighbors. Its much more fun to stay small and fight off larger enemies, then to be large and fight smaller enemies.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I just tonight finished playing to domination (112 regions) as the HRE. And I have to say, it was horifically dull by the end. The Timurids flung armies at Bulgar, my Fortress, and I fought them the first couple of times and defeated them comfortably, but after that I resorted to using 'auto_win defender', something I've never done before, because I just couldn't take fighting them turn after turn (auto resolve didn't give fair results). I kept going to fight the Aztecs and test my Reiters on them, which proved to be an enjoyable experiment. If if wasn't for the Americas I would have won 40 turns ago, having owned all of the Old World for quite a while.

[Iñnsomñni]

Although i agree with you Gaiseric, i believe people are putting their expectations too high for Empires, they cant take into consideration everybodys wants, they will just throw in a few things to keep us happy, and i dont think that Empires will greatly vary from the exsisting TW series, i think it will be relatively the same, with only a few tweaks

[Gaiseric]

@Caledonian Rhyfelwyr: Congrats on the World Conquest!!!


Iñnsomñni

Although i agree with you Gaiseric, i believe people are putting their expectations too high for Empires, they cant take into consideration everybodys wants, they will just throw in a few things to keep us happy, and i dont think that Empires will greatly vary from the exsisting TW series, i think it will be relatively the same, with only a few tweaks

Thats too bad. I will probably still buy it though the day it gets released. I can sit here and complain about the tw series, but, of all my games, its the tw series that have given me the most enjoyment for the amount of time I spend playing them. When I get bored/frustrated with empires I can wait for a patch or play a mod.

[Iñnsomñni]

Ok, i will probably buy empires too, although i dont think they will add very much that the people on these forums are asking for, still the TW series have been great so far, so i might as well see what the next series is like, especially if the new game has improved graphics and gameplay too. I wish they would just change the turns to years, its very stupid that they have it in turns, makes its sound like a board game

[Philbert]

When this forum doesn't have enough thread, I always look here.

[Bravedude]

When this forum doesn't have enough thread, I always look here.

I'm never gonna give you up TW fans. I'm never gonna let you guys down. I will never run around, and desert this forum. I'm never gonna make you guys cry. I will never say good bye. I will never tell you a lie.

I think Philbert agrees with me.