Loyalty Question

[Squid]

If faction A is shadowed by faction B, does faction B need to be shadowed by faction A?

[TruePraetorian]

..if im understanding the question correctly, then no. If faction B is shadowing faction A, then faction A needs "shadowed_by" and then faction B.

Here is an example for ye:

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faction empire_east, shadowed_by empire_east_rebels (faction A)
culture roman
symbol models_strat/symbol_empire_east.CAS
rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_roman_rebel.CAS
primary_colour red 120, green 48, blue 150
secondary_colour red 255, green 255, blue 141
loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_empire_east.tga
standard_index 1
logo_index 24 ; Index into strat3.rsd
small_logo_index 244 ; Index into shared.rsd
triumph_value 5
intro_movie
victory_movie fmv/victory/empire_east_win.wmv
defeat_movie fmv/lose/empire_east_eliminated.wmv
death_movie fmv/lose/empire_east_eliminated.wmv
custom_battle_availability yes
can_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no

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faction empire_east_rebels, shadowing empire_east (faction B)
culture roman
symbol models_strat/symbol_empire_east_rebels.CAS
rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_roman_rebel.CAS
primary_colour red 52, green 139, blue 129
secondary_colour red 255, green 255, blue 141
loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_empire_east_rebels.tga
standard_index 1
logo_index 249 ; Index into strat3.rsd
small_logo_index 262 ; Index into shared.rsd
triumph_value 5
intro_movie
victory_movie fmv/victory/empire_east_rebels_win.wmv
defeat_movie fmv/lose/empire_east_rebels_eliminated.wmv
death_movie fmv/lose/empire_east_rebels_eliminated.wmv
custom_battle_availability yes
can_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no

Faction A (Empire East) is shadowed_by Faction B (Empire East Rebels). This means when, in loyaltys case, a character rebels, he will rebel to faction B.

Also, you can't include the slave faction in any shadowing, it will result in numerous CTD's.

Hope I helped

EDIT: Got my alphabet mixed up

[Dol Guldur]

I believe the characters only rebel if that aspect of shadowing is activated, otherwise a new character is spawned and your character unceremoniously booted out of the city ;)

just comment in/out the "rebelling_characters_active" line at the top of the DS file to toggle it.

Loyalty appears (even for non-roman factions) in the faction that is being shadowed, but I am not sure if it appears in the shadowing faction's characters (it does not at least when they are not the player faction - which generally they will not be of course).

[Squid]

Second question, can one faction be shadowing two or more other factions? So could empire_east_rebels be shadowing both empire_east and empire_west?

[TruePraetorian]

Yes, but I think three is the maximum, otherwise you may experience CTD's.