The Barons Alliance

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

Where do these spawn, i cant seem to find them, im playing wales and want to ally them and destroy the english, but i have looked all over england and cant seem to find them, does anybody know where they spawn, which towns they have???

[cassu]

they spawn some bit in the game and they dont exist before there comes a message about it

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

The message has came up, i just cant find them on the campaign map, i have scouts everywhere and they havent found them yet...

[cassu]

they might have spawned in any part of the english cities so just look where the english have cities and you should find it, other then that i cant really help you

[ataribaby]

They usually take over a couple of adjacent settlements; I think it's where civil unrest is high. I've seen them appear in Carlisle/Lancaster in one game, Newcastle/York in another, and even Cardiff/Gloucester.

Maybe they're in Ireland - have you looked there? The English always start the game with major unrest trouble in Dublin and Derry.

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

No. i havent lloked there yet, ill send a spy over soon

[ataribaby]

Failing that, you could just swap map info with the Barons' Alliance.

[Pater Familias]

Failing that, you could just swap map info with the Barons' Alliance.

If, of course, you knew where they were so you could find them to do the swap ...

[Duke Bart]

I guess if he is really lucky he can spot one of their diplomats and talk to him. Of course knowing the game im sure that if you are lucky enough to find a diplomat they probably will not allow you map information

[Dead Guy]

Or pull up the console thingie and type toggle_fow, find the bastards, and then type toggle_fow again. I don't know which key to press because i have a swedish keyboard, and there you press ö! (it's the one to the right of the L key)
That removes the fog of war, if you didn't know that already.

But that's cheating!!1

[Ethelred Unread]

I've had them in Ireland before playing as the Welsh - they're usually in Derry.

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

Is it fow or fog??? Just seems strange CA cant spell, i try it now though...

[cassu]

insane i think fow stands for Fog Of War

[Dead Guy]

Though i would like to disable fog sometimes... mainly in battles! =)

[Sigismund]

In my campaign with the Welsh they appeared; east to west: London, Oxford, Shrewsbury... So it was quite a big blow for the English... And as my preposters suggested: type the key for opening the console and use toggle_fow command...

cheers

[Mek Simmur al Ragaski]

Aaaah i get it now

[ataribaby]

If, of course, you knew where they were so you could find them to do the swap ...

Haha! Doh! Dumb suggestion huh?