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Are we really going to excuse mass immigration policy's because of the food a very limited amount of immigrants could also introduce? Maybe 1% starts a restaurant whoopiedoo
The simple fact is that the fertility rate for the industrialized nations has been bellow the value necessary for population renewal.... that alone ensure that we need immigration....
and let´s not forget the fact that nowadays everyone wants to be a doctor or a software designer....nobody wants to pave roads and stuff like that....
so if you are so mad about immigration I propose you go home right now....tell the missus to drop her panties and do something about it.....preferably several times.......unless people want to do that immigration is necessary.
and let´s not forget the fact that nowadays everyone wants to be a doctor or a software designer....nobody wants to pave roads and stuff like that....
so if you are so mad about immigration I propose you go home right now....tell the missus to drop her panties and do something about it.....preferably several times.......unless people want to do that immigration is necessary.
Originally Posted by Ronin:
The simple fact is that the fertility rate for the industrialized nations has been bellow the value necessary for population renewal.... that alone ensure that we need immigration....
and let´s not forget the fact that nowadays everyone wants to be a doctor or a software designer....nobody wants to pave roads and stuff like that....
so if you are so mad about immigration I propose you go home right now....tell the missus to drop her panties and do something about it.....preferably several times.......unless people want to do that immigration is necessary.
We need baby's only to keep wealthfare state going, that same wealthfare state that is burdened by massive immigrations and the rediculous amounts of money it costs that don't fly. We can't use them, except the poles they have the wrong mentality.The simple fact is that the fertility rate for the industrialized nations has been bellow the value necessary for population renewal.... that alone ensure that we need immigration....
and let´s not forget the fact that nowadays everyone wants to be a doctor or a software designer....nobody wants to pave roads and stuff like that....
so if you are so mad about immigration I propose you go home right now....tell the missus to drop her panties and do something about it.....preferably several times.......unless people want to do that immigration is necessary.
Originally Posted by Ronin:
The simple fact is that the fertility rate for the industrialized nations has been bellow the value necessary for population renewal.... that alone ensure that we need immigration....
Not at all. Population renewal is a totem pole for latter day Indians. Lower fertility rates are a major factor behind the economic success and mass welfare of western states.The simple fact is that the fertility rate for the industrialized nations has been bellow the value necessary for population renewal.... that alone ensure that we need immigration....
I'm all for dropping panties, but not in the interest of GDP...
I, um, agree with Adrian. We are overcrowded as is, particually in the Uk, population fall is desirable and there's at least csome evidence that people have less kids when things are overcrowded. Look at the Baby Boomers for the opposite.
The immigrants generally don't pay national insurrance but still use the Welfare State, this makes things worse for the rest of us. With the looming rescesion this is a particually big problem. Further, wages at the lower end of the economy are being depressed and those jobs are losing whatever prestige they had because "only immigrants do them."
It gets worse, because we have a social problem. Too many people on benefits because of a miss-managed welfare state. The immigrants give the economy a crutch and the career-unemployed an excuse. Then the immigrants work the joke out and jump on the bandwagon, so things get worse.
We need to sort our house out over here and with the best will in the world mass immigration is not helping.
The immigrants generally don't pay national insurrance but still use the Welfare State, this makes things worse for the rest of us. With the looming rescesion this is a particually big problem. Further, wages at the lower end of the economy are being depressed and those jobs are losing whatever prestige they had because "only immigrants do them."
It gets worse, because we have a social problem. Too many people on benefits because of a miss-managed welfare state. The immigrants give the economy a crutch and the career-unemployed an excuse. Then the immigrants work the joke out and jump on the bandwagon, so things get worse.
We need to sort our house out over here and with the best will in the world mass immigration is not helping.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
The immigrants generally don't pay national insurrance but still use the Welfare State, this makes things worse for the rest of us. .
The immigrants generally don't pay national insurrance but still use the Welfare State, this makes things worse for the rest of us. .
I'm intrigued as to how you work that statement out.
Immigrant workers are, more often than not, employed. In the UK, it's employers who are responsible for paying national insurance for their employees.
Thus, if the NI is not being paid, the employer is either exploiting the worker (by employing illegally) or avoiding HMRC. Either way, it isn't the immigrant worker's fault.
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost:
I'm intrigued as to how you work that statement out.
Immigrant workers are, more often than not, employed. In the UK, it's employers who are responsible for paying national insurance for their employees.
Thus, if the NI is not being paid, the employer is either exploiting the worker (by employing illegally) or avoiding HMRC. Either way, it isn't the immigrant worker's fault.
Well, there's the illigal employment and the ones that come to the country and then go on the dole. I don't see how it's not their fault if they're employed illigally. I'm intrigued as to how you work that statement out.
Immigrant workers are, more often than not, employed. In the UK, it's employers who are responsible for paying national insurance for their employees.
Thus, if the NI is not being paid, the employer is either exploiting the worker (by employing illegally) or avoiding HMRC. Either way, it isn't the immigrant worker's fault.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
Well, there's the illigal employment and the ones that come to the country and then go on the dole. I don't see how it's not their fault if they're employed illigally.
Because they don't have much else to do?Well, there's the illigal employment and the ones that come to the country and then go on the dole. I don't see how it's not their fault if they're employed illigally.
It's not a whole lot of fun to starve to death, and thankfully, not everyone likes to steal stuff.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Are we really going to excuse mass immigration policy's because of the food a very limited amount of immigrants could also introduce? Maybe 1% starts a restaurant whoopiedoo
It was the most obvious part and I did say it was just one part. And I wonder what component of your own food uptake is 100% local.Are we really going to excuse mass immigration policy's because of the food a very limited amount of immigrants could also introduce? Maybe 1% starts a restaurant whoopiedoo
I would obviously add in fashion, work styles, knowledge, special skills, variety and multicultural women for starters.
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