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    Ahern is going to resign as Taioseach.

    More.

    Finally, he has bowed to the inevitable. For the uninitiated, Bertie Ahern ahs long been embroiled in a corruption scandal that would shame an African dictatorship.

    Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 04-02-2008 at 11:23.
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    From what you and dear Tribesman have posted, I'm only surprised that this took so long in coming.

    ANy chance we could get one of you two fellows to replace him. You seem quite reasonable and honest -- couldn't hurt given Ahern -- so you'd be a good choice; and I confess that the sheer entertainment of Tribesman's approach to governing would be a spectacle to behold.
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    Good riddance to bad rubbish , I hope the gobshite ends up in jail for a bloody long time .
    Now then Banquo , do you think was it the secretary that finally done him ?
    I mean after all he could probably explain that testimony away .... "of course the Irish government pays its wages in cash in foriegn currency how can anyone possibly think anythings unusual about that " ...it would be about as credible as the dozen other different explainations he has given .

    At least he wrote a good epitaph ...The public are entitled to have an absolute guarantee of the financial probity and integrity of their elected representatives, their officials and above all of Ministers. They need to know that they are under financial obligations to nobody. ...though of course when he said that he didn't think it would apply to him .
    So is probably more of a case of ....
    It is not correct, and if I said so I was not correct
    I cannot recall if I said it , but I didn't say it
    Or if I did I did not mean to say it

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    You guys do seem to get some dodgy characters as Taoiseach. Wasn't Mr. Potatohead in it up to his armpits as well?

    Could be worse though, you could always have Gordon 'the moron' Brown.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Reads like a longer version of Nixon's '73 speech:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon
    People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got.
    Ahern's resignation only prompts selection of a new Taioseach by his party, not a general election, yes? Is there an heir-apparent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Now then Banquo , do you think was it the secretary that finally done him ?
    I thought he was ahead again yesterday when those rulings against the Mahon tribunal went his way.

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    Ahern's resignation only prompts selection of a new Taioseach by his party, not a general election, yes? Is there an heir-apparent?
    Sadly, there is. The tanaiste, Brian Cowen is popular in his own party and likely to get the leadership. The opposition once described this gentle soul as "the only man left in Ireland who still believes Ahern" after his defence of his beloved leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    You guys do seem to get some dodgy characters as Taoiseach. Wasn't Mr. Potatohead in it up to his armpits as well?
    It's pretty much part of the job description, under perks. (What we need is a "rolling in filthy lucre like a pig in " smiley. Just think of the usage it would get.)
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    I thought he was ahead again yesterday when those rulings against the Mahon tribunal went his way.
    No the only one that was imporant there was that they couldn't question him about some of his explainations as to where the money was from and what it was for due to where they had been made , but he had been foolish enough to lose it a couple of times with journalists and repeat those explanations out of the house so they could use that source instead .
    On top of that they can also still question him on all the other fairytale accounts he has given over the money ...and more importantly the pile of bull that he gave as evidence at the tribunal itself .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    Sadly, there is. The tanaiste, Brian Cowen is popular in his own party and likely to get the leadership. The opposition once described this gentle soul as "the only man left in Ireland who still believes Ahern" after his defence of his beloved leader.
    Found this on wikipedia, now help translate from weird irish to english:

    The Taoiseach is appointed by the President upon the nomination of Dáil Éireann (the lower house of Oireachtas), and must, while he or she remains in office, retain the support of a majority in the Dáil. The current Taoiseach is Bertie Ahern, TD, leader of the Fianna Fáil party. On 2 April 2008, he announced his intention to step down, as of 6 May 2008.
    So... Translating this into standard euro parliamentary systems... "dail Eireann" would be parliament? Or just a part of it? So Taoiseach would be a PM, who is elected just like any other PM, ie not by direct election, election is for MP's, and then one of the parties says "hey, we're gonna have the PM!", they pick a guy and parliament then either votes for him or ditches him. So to get a new Taoiseach from a different party, there would have to be a new election for parliament and that parliament would have to get a different majority. Right?



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    I'm no expert but it sounds about right.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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