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    Default Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Imagine that you had to pit an average Roman legionnaire or any other footsoldier of that era against an average medieval footsoldier/dismounted knight. Who do you think would win, given their technology and technique?

    (disclaimer: I do not know much about medieval warfare, so by dismounted knight I'm imagining the stereotypical knight in full body armour and all that goes with it)

    I'm guessing the medieval soldier, given the full armour, but who knows..
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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    The roman legion depended on discipline rather than individual skill. This matchup is not a good one.

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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Exactly. I'd even venture to say the if 1 cohort of experienced Roman Legionaries were pitted against a like numbe rof standard medieval soldiers, the legionaries would win easily.

    In a head ot head 1 on 1 matchup, I'd have to bet on the medieval soldier.

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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    The roman legion depended on discipline rather than individual skill. This matchup is not a good one.
    Except given later legionaries were professional, full-time soldiers, I think it's dangerous to assume they weren't capable individual, as well as collective fighters.
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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    The problem is you say medieval soldier. That can mean anything from a villager given a helmet and a pike, to a foot knight in shining armour. From my personal knowledge, foot soldiers were mostly peasants, and the aristocracy fought on horse bakcs, and that very few foot soldiers were a well trained proffessional fighting force (English Longbowmen came close, but lacked training in extensive melee).
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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    on 1v1 I don't know, it depens on many things, especially the equipment of the medieval guy (plate? mail? two handed weapon?), in a group vs group fight romans would have for sure a big advantage

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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Ok so then I rephrase: consider a cohort of roman soldiers against an equal number of medieval knights for that matter. I think medieval soldiers did fight in units, correct me if I'm wrong, but perhaps their style of fighting was more oriented towards a one-on-one kind of combat?
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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalstrm
    Ok so then I rephrase: consider a cohort of roman soldiers against an equal number of medieval knights for that matter. I think medieval soldiers did fight in units, correct me if I'm wrong, but perhaps their style of fighting was more oriented towards a one-on-one kind of combat?
    I'd have to bet in the medieval knights. They were basically walking tanks, and while the initial pila attack would kill many before the real fight began, once they were in melee range, I doubt a legionary carrying burdened by armor and a tower shield would effectively pierce the Knight's armor (Considering the knight would use the shield) The only chance would be to fight until the knights were exhausted (Provided that they stayed with a sufficient number to continuing defending themselves properly. Then the legionaries basically needed a good bash on the knight with their shield, throwing the exhausted man into the ground with his armor. The sheer exhaustion with the armor made sure the knight could do little to raise himself up in time before the legionary found a breach in the joints of his armor and shouved his gladius up there.
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    Default Re: Hypothetical question: Roman era soldier vs. medieval footsoldier

    Uh, no one ever "pierced" armour. They might get through joints or weakened links, but the idea of punching through steel plate is ridiculous.

    Furthermore, the idea that anyone would fight in armour which made it impossible to get up again is equally silly.
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