1.x AI Faction Progression Thread

[QuintusSertorius]

There are no naval invasions in RTW.

Or, well, I've never seen one.

In my Romani game, the Karthadastim just reinforced Sicily with an additional family member and three decent pike units. Not exactly an invasion, but better than nothing.

[Yabusama's Ghost]

Sab'ryn Campaign 249BC



I am using the ALEX.exe had have not interferred using forced diplomacy. "The Grey Death" seems cancelled out by "The Yellow Death", but the Epirius "Pea Green Soupy Sea of Death" seems to be winning in the Balkans

[The General]

In my Romani game, the Karthadastim just reinforced Sicily with an additional family member and three decent pike units. Not exactly an invasion, but better than nothing.

Not an invasion. ;)

Afair in vanilla RTW the AI won't land units on foreign soil.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Maybe it's too early for a serious conclusion but there seems to be a massive trend that the Epirotes are the new winning force of Greece. The Maks got even weaker than they were in 1.0. And that is really sad.

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

Maybe it's too early for a serious conclusion but there seems to be a massive trend that the Epirotes are the new winning force of Greece. The Maks got even weaker than they were in 1.0. And that is really sad.

Too soon for that conclusion.

Personally I think that Pyhrros is the best general in Greece at the start of the game, and he's giving Epirus an edge. Once Phyrros is dead, the Epirotes probably won't be so effective.

[QuintusSertorius]

In my game, taking Epiros' early Macedonian holdings off them with Force Diplomacy seems to have paralysed them. They're a Macedonian protectorate now, not at war with anyone, and have literally done nothing for the past 20 years. They have two full stacks immobile outside Ambrakia.

[We shall fwee...Wodewick]

I have found so far that Macedonia is underpowered and in my experiances so far have been smashed by Eperios and KH at the same time, becuase Epeiros and KH can only go at Macedon.

I mean, in my romani game, I decided to save Macedon by giving them back Thermon and Demetrias (Not with force diplomacy, I just sent a legion, and then gave them the two cities and 100,000 out of my treasury. Also, Epeiros have pella and they are my allies and I ran out of men to take Corinth so I couldn't save them completly in the mainland)

Also, is there no way to make the Averni better? I mean they always get to a bad start, and despite me giving them over 500,000mnai (without cheats) by 230bc, they are still useless, but with full stacks in two cities!

[skuzzy]

255BC Romani Campaign

Makedonia is holding their own I would say although Epeiros has stacks pushing everywhere north. Epeiros took Pella, Makedonia took Ambrakia, fair trade? I haven't given cash to either of them and I'm disappointed I expanded into Northern Italy so quickly but the Aedui gave me little choice sending stack after stack against me! Makedonia also decided to run all the way around Illyria with a stack of 4-5 units and attack me for no good reason. A matter fact the only ones to behave are the Carthaginians... go figure. No Punic War for me, only Greco conquest in my future -.-

[QuintusSertorius]

I have found so far that Macedonia is underpowered and in my experiances so far have been smashed by Eperios and KH at the same time, becuase Epeiros and KH can only go at Macedon.

I mean, in my romani game, I decided to save Macedon by giving them back Thermon and Demetrias (Not with force diplomacy, I just sent a legion, and then gave them the two cities and 100,000 out of my treasury. Also, Epeiros have pella and they are my allies and I ran out of men to take Corinth so I couldn't save them completly in the mainland)

Well, as I said in mine they went from almost total defeat from Epeiros to now dominating Greece and turning Epeiros into their protectorate. I've had to take a few actions to prevent them wiping out Koinon Hellenon now the Epirotes have abstained from any activity whatsoever.

All I did was give them Pella and Demetrius back with Force Diplomacy (and some money a few turns - not a lot either). They then took Tylis all on their own, after Pontos had tried several times, and Serdike after the Getai had similarly failed a few attempts.

Also, is there no way to make the Averni better? I mean they always get to a bad start, and despite me giving them over 500,000mnai (without cheats) by 230bc, they are still useless, but with full stacks in two cities!

I found the same in 1.0, they just aren't as aggressive as the Aedui. I similarly resorted to Force Diplomacy there. Firstly I gave them Galatia after the Seleukids took it. Then I wait for the Aedui to take a few of the rebel cities and FD them to the Arverni to maintain a balance. Along with giving them back their initial settlements the Aedui always seem to take off them.

[Visitor13]

Not an invasion. ;)

Afair in vanilla RTW the AI won't land units on foreign soil.

With RTW.exe I saw Lusotann invade the Carthage-owned Balearic Islands in EB and RTR Platinum.

[Olimpian]

I might have seen an Epirote invasion of Italy in a short KH campaign with 1.1.They lost Taras early-on and around 260BC when I lifted the fow I saw they had Taras again.It could have been a revolt,but they did have a navy in the area...so who knows.I also had some random Ptolie naval actions in 1.0,landing and withdrawing a few units in some locations.So I guess it is possible...just very very rare.

[General Appo]

I´ve seen Carthage landing armies in Sicily, but only in areas controlled by them. Playing as the Sweboz with the Fow off I noticed a Carthaginian fleet with a full stack on it, but the ship just roamed around the Med aimlessly for twnty years until it dissapeared near a pirate fleet, I reckon it got them. Stupid AI.
I´ve also seen KH gather a huge army at Rhodos but only puting it just outside the city, even when they have a fleet nearby that could easily transport it to the mainland. Stupid AI.

[jtareb]

In my romani 1.1 campaign which is at 189bc the ai factions are progressing in a somewhat similar fashion to 1.0 but with a few major exceptions. Carthage will land armies in sicily if you attack them--the strength can vary. I had to face two full stacks which appeared almost out of nowhere. In Spain they had another two full stacks with pikemen as well but once they lost them they did not reinforce and lost all their provinces in spain fairly quickly. The lusotani were not as aggressive as i would have thought probably due to the strength of the rebel cities in spain.

In gaul the aedui were going strong until the sweboz showed up--now they are down to one province(noricum). The averni struggled initially but once I allied with them they began to fight back against the aedui and the sweboz and now hold most of gaul. The sweboz still run amok making a bee-line straight down towards milan and my homeland.

In the balkans there is a stalemate with the eperiotes holding their lands and macedonia and the hellenes still in control of greece. Eperios is fighting the getea with neither side making any progress. Macedonia is held to their asian lands and is involved in a war with the seleucids and Pontos. The seleucids and egypt are currently at war with neither side making any progress against the other.

As far as the east is going from what i can tell the Bactrians are the largest faction.

[QuintusSertorius]

Anyone have any ideas why Epeiros seem to have been paralysed for more than 20 years? I took Pella and Demetrius off them through Force Diplomacy and gave them back to Makedonia, and since they Makedonia made them their protectorate. They're not at war with anyone, either. But they've got two full stacks which haven't moved just sitting outside Ambrakia.