1.x AI Faction Progression Thread

**QuintusSertorius** · 04-13-2008, 00:03

In my game, taking Epiros' early Macedonian holdings off them with Force Diplomacy seems to have paralysed them. They're a Macedonian protectorate now, not at war with anyone, and have literally done nothing for the past 20 years. They have two full stacks immobile outside Ambrakia.

**We shall fwee...Wodewick** · 04-13-2008, 04:34

I have found so far that Macedonia is underpowered and in my experiances so far have been smashed by Eperios and KH at the same time, becuase Epeiros and KH can only go at Macedon.

I mean, in my romani game, I decided to save Macedon by giving them back Thermon and Demetrias (Not with force diplomacy, I just sent a legion, and then gave them the two cities and 100,000 out of my treasury. Also, Epeiros have pella and they are my allies and I ran out of men to take Corinth so I couldn't save them completly in the mainland)

Also, is there no way to make the Averni better? I mean they always get to a bad start, and despite me giving them over 500,000mnai (without cheats) by 230bc, they are still useless, but with full stacks in two cities!

**skuzzy** · 04-13-2008, 05:00

255BC Romani Campaign

Makedonia is holding their own I would say although Epeiros has stacks pushing everywhere north. Epeiros took Pella, Makedonia took Ambrakia, fair trade? I haven't given cash to either of them and I'm disappointed I expanded into Northern Italy so quickly but the Aedui gave me little choice sending stack after stack against me! Makedonia also decided to run all the way around Illyria with a stack of 4-5 units and attack me for no good reason. A matter fact the only ones to behave are the Carthaginians... go figure. No Punic War for me, only Greco conquest in my future -.-

**General Appo** · 04-13-2008, 07:39

Well, I think we can clearly draw the hastened conclusion that Baktria and Pahlava are much more willing to attack the Seleukids in the early game, something that I at least believes to be positive.
The strangest stuff I´ve seen so far is in my Baktria campaign, I´m only at 257 BC and the Romani holds all of Italy, Messana, Syrakousai, Massalia and Segestica. They´re doing better then most human players, even those who just wanna conquer and not sit back and wait for the right year.

**Poggleit** · 04-13-2008, 12:24

Originally Posted by General Appo

Well, I think we can clearly draw the hastened conclusion that Baktria and Pahlava are much more willing to attack the Seleukids in the early game, something that I at least believes to be positive.

Yeah, in every game I've played the Pahlavans have attacked the Seleukids on the very first turn.

**Reality=Chaos** · 04-13-2008, 12:35

Im y Getai campaign (h/m) There is a massive scrap between the seleukids on the one hand and the pahlava and Saka on the other. The Silly's are very, very slowly losing the scrap as well. Baktria took Kophen and is currently focusing on the eleutheroi (although one army seems to be on it's way to invade the Silly's as well! I like it a lot the new war in the east.

**VinDic** · 04-13-2008, 12:41

Get the script (the ` an ~ key) then type toggle_fow, and presto it's off. If you want to put it on aagain simply open the script again and type the sama thing again.

Thanks, but what or where's the an ~ key?...

**QuintusSertorius** · 04-13-2008, 10:20

Originally Posted by We shall fwee...Wodewick

I have found so far that Macedonia is underpowered and in my experiances so far have been smashed by Eperios and KH at the same time, becuase Epeiros and KH can only go at Macedon.

I mean, in my romani game, I decided to save Macedon by giving them back Thermon and Demetrias (Not with force diplomacy, I just sent a legion, and then gave them the two cities and 100,000 out of my treasury. Also, Epeiros have pella and they are my allies and I ran out of men to take Corinth so I couldn't save them completly in the mainland)

Well, as I said in mine they went from almost total defeat from Epeiros to now dominating Greece and turning Epeiros into their protectorate. I've had to take a few actions to prevent them wiping out Koinon Hellenon now the Epirotes have abstained from any activity whatsoever.

All I did was give them Pella and Demetrius back with Force Diplomacy (and some money a few turns - not a lot either). They then took Tylis all on their own, after Pontos had tried several times, and Serdike after the Getai had similarly failed a few attempts.

Originally Posted by We shall fwee...Wodewick

Also, is there no way to make the Averni better? I mean they always get to a bad start, and despite me giving them over 500,000mnai (without cheats) by 230bc, they are still useless, but with full stacks in two cities!

I found the same in 1.0, they just aren't as aggressive as the Aedui. I similarly resorted to Force Diplomacy there. Firstly I gave them Galatia after the Seleukids took it. Then I wait for the Aedui to take a few of the rebel cities and FD them to the Arverni to maintain a balance. Along with giving them back their initial settlements the Aedui always seem to take off them.