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    Very good :D
    I can't wait to hear the result of the battle
    Alea iacta est(The die is cast)-Gaius Julius Caesar

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    I'm liking this AAR. Keep it up!


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    Wow just wow. Love the story and the screenshots. A couple questions. How do you set up your formations for battle? In other words do you string up the hoplites into one long line? Also do you fight them so that they are deep as they are wide so that its a square unit? What units do you use to turn the flanks of the enemy? And finally whatever the formation you use is that a "traditional" fighting tactic of the Greeks? Hope I didnt overwhelm you with all that but I am following your AAR with great Interest. Greek history is fascinating to me. Awesome job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirurgeon
    Wow just wow. Love the story and the screenshots. A couple questions. How do you set up your formations for battle? In other words do you string up the hoplites into one long line? Also do you fight them so that they are deep as they are wide so that its a square unit? What units do you use to turn the flanks of the enemy? And finally whatever the formation you use is that a "traditional" fighting tactic of the Greeks? Hope I didnt overwhelm you with all that but I am following your AAR with great Interest. Greek history is fascinating to me. Awesome job
    For my formation, on flat ground which is where ive read greek battle lines looked for, missile infront of a line of hoplites. I select the hoplites i want and just drag them out to the desired length. I try to keep the hoplites in a square, but i play with large formations, and if they havent been recently retrained that can be challenging. If i face mostly light troops i may make the phalanx very thin, to make flanking me much harder.

    Next after the phalanx is placed and i move the superior hoplites to the right side of the phalanx. This early in the game itd go like this (left to right), levy, classical, spartans (general). I do this only because ive read about it when reading on ancient greek battles.

    Finally i put a more flexable troop, usually theuropoi(sp?) but this early in the game hoplites behind the phalanx. Two units on each side. As for calvary, which i dont use a lot of but if its 3 or less units in a line behind my flanking units. If i have 4 units or more there also split up evenly on each side of the phalanx line.

    Turning the flank of the enemy is usually simple, if they crash into your sheilds and they arent allowed to flank you, just watch the right side of the line.

    As far as I can tell this is a historical formation, minus the calvary. I really dont know how they set up their calvary.

    And the questions are no problem, greek history is fascinating to me as well. I'm glad you guys enjoy it.

    Edit : Apperently after the long chapter i just wrote, the pictures are overwritting themselves. So all 30+ pictures are gone, which is depressing because they were awesome screenshots. Looks like the next chapter is going to be a lot of text.
    Last edited by STuNTz2023; 04-11-2008 at 23:51.

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    I have Koinon champaign as well :)
    Its 264 BC and I took most of Greece except the 2 cities of Epirose and Pella.
    Also took that small island in front of Sparta(can't remember its name ), I think I will take that small Macedonian island near the shores of Asia minor before taking Pella,there are 3 full stacks there (including in the city itself)+Antigonos and some more family members. I got only 1 half+ stack which i take cities with it,dunno what should I do...Also Rhodes got a big - (I think -1745) and I dunno how to fix this,any suggestions?
    I hope you continue your AAR soon
    Alea iacta est(The die is cast)-Gaius Julius Caesar

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliad91
    I have Koinon champaign as well :)
    Its 264 BC and I took most of Greece except the 2 cities of Epirose and Pella.
    Also took that small island in front of Sparta(can't remember its name ), I think I will take that small Macedonian island near the shores of Asia minor before taking Pella,there are 3 full stacks there (including in the city itself)+Antigonos and some more family members. I got only 1 half+ stack which i take cities with it,dunno what should I do...Also Rhodes got a big - (I think -1745) and I dunno how to fix this,any suggestions?
    I hope you continue your AAR soon
    1. worked all day yesterday n ill out today but an update should be tonight. (EST)

    If you want to end Makedonia id start assaulting the island they have. Without it, its much easier to stop there expansion in asia minor one youve kicked them out of Greece. Rhodos always seems to be in debt due to its size and your army's i think but if u are constantly building improvements to the economy in Rhodos when a time of peace comes and you can disband some of your army's it'll be back in the positives. Though when im in your position, Pella is one of my main targets. Has to much potential not take it, besides it is your enemies capital.

    Grabbing a few more cities, especially if there are mines or a trading dock to help reduce your debt in Rhodos. Upgrading all of your docks along with trade rights wit the Ptolemi(sp?) and the Selecuids(sp?) (if your not at war with ither) will also greatly help.

    Good Luck!
    Last edited by STuNTz2023; 04-13-2008 at 15:02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STuNTz2023
    For my formation, on flat ground which is where ive read greek battle lines looked for, missile infront of a line of hoplites. I select the hoplites i want and just drag them out to the desired length. I try to keep the hoplites in a square, but i play with large formations, and if they havent been recently retrained that can be challenging. If i face mostly light troops i may make the phalanx very thin, to make flanking me much harder.

    Next after the phalanx is placed and i move the superior hoplites to the right side of the phalanx. This early in the game itd go like this (left to right), levy, classical, spartans (general). I do this only because ive read about it when reading on ancient greek battles.

    Finally i put a more flexable troop, usually theuropoi(sp?) but this early in the game hoplites behind the phalanx. Two units on each side. As for calvary, which i dont use a lot of but if its 3 or less units in a line behind my flanking units. If i have 4 units or more there also split up evenly on each side of the phalanx line.

    Turning the flank of the enemy is usually simple, if they crash into your sheilds and they arent allowed to flank you, just watch the right side of the line.

    As far as I can tell this is a historical formation, minus the calvary. I really dont know how they set up their calvary.

    And the questions are no problem, greek history is fascinating to me as well. I'm glad you guys enjoy it.

    Edit : Apperently after the long chapter i just wrote, the pictures are overwritting themselves. So all 30+ pictures are gone, which is depressing because they were awesome screenshots. Looks like the next chapter is going to be a lot of text.
    Thank you for answering my questions. I had played KH and thats how I basically set up my formations as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirurgeon
    Thank you for answering my questions. I had played KH and thats how I basically set up my formations as well.
    Not a problem.




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    Was going to update today but ran into some car problems which took up the majority of my day. Expect one tomorrow.

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