Quote Originally Posted by TWFanatic
Precisely. Many people consider guard mode vastly inferior to short_pike.
Eh? Either you have been misinterpreting me, or something ... Anyways: what I meant is that one should compare your changes to the guard mode. And that you seem not to have been doing that at all.

Do you very much doubt that they marched with the tops of their spears dragging magically below ground? The former is far more plausible than they latter--and it looks much better.
No, I don't. However, that's caused by anim + spearlength. I do not doubt, actually, that they marched with their spears in the same fashion as they currently do in EB - apart for that magic ground stuff going on. (Even I have seen vase paintings of marching hoplites...)

So for me it's between something which is physically impossible yet aims to resemble how they actually marched (it fails, due to the magic ground thingy); or something which is, IMO practically dodgy as well (the butt spike) as not aiming for the historical accuracy.

Note that I'm not trying to press my opinions on anyone, I'm just tired of people dissing my beloved short_pike attribute.
Okay, to each his own. I am just tired of people who advertise themselves like this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
BEFORE they get short_pike trait:

They march with the tops of their spears magically dragging beneath the ground and their butt spikes in the air.
AFTER they get short_pike trait:

They march with spears held level and pointed forward.

BEFORE:

They break formation and charge like unorganized rabble.
AFTER:

They stay in a tight, orderly formation and slam into the enemy as one - an invincible, unstoppable phalanx.

BEFORE:

They fight like barbarians, individuals fighting for personal glory with no resemblance of a formation.
AFTER:

They fight like, well, a phalanx! A single, implacable body pushing the enemy backwards with great force until they finally break and run.

As we can see, hoplitai behave far more accurately and realistically with short_pike than without it. If anything, they ar more bugged without it, as I have just shown.


I suppose you understand why?

Ultimately this is a matter of taste, though.