KOTR Postmortem and Next-Gen Rules Discussion

[Ferret]

that is a good point, if a group of 6 forms and pushes on eup to Grand Duke the lowly Baronet could drop out and everyone would be demoted. Is it historically accurate for a Grand Duke to lose his Grand if a Baronet leaves him? I suupose that still could work and they'd just have to find a new baronet. but I agree it should be harder to get to the top rank.

[Privateerkev]

that is a good point, if a group of 6 forms and pushes on eup to Grand Duke the lowly Baronet could drop out and everyone would be demoted. Is it historically accurate for a Grand Duke to lose his Grand if a Baronet leaves him? I suupose that still could work and they'd just have to find a new baronet. but I agree it should be harder to get to the top rank.

Or maybe what I'm worried about will just be solved by player's quest for moderation. I can see the ranks wildly swinging up and down in the beginning and when there is an influx or drop of players. But on further thought, what will probably be sought out by players is not "players" but "stable and reliable players". Sure, you can get a few newbies to join and move you up a couple ranks but they might leave in a week. What will get fought over is the small pool of regulars. This will probably cause the ladders to become more stable as a few factions develop and solidify their holdings.

[gibsonsg91921]

I'm gonna need to change my pants.

[Ramses II CP]

Mmm, PK peripherally raises a good point (In addition to the ones he went at directly, of course). We need some kind of inactivity limitation rules to prevent people from collecting Baronets who are only in the game as a technicality and not really participating. von Essen, von Hapsburg, et al from the end of KotR for example.

Say, if a player under an oath of fealty doesn't declare themselves inactive they are required to demonstrate a minimum amount of participation in order to hold on to their position. For that minimum... voting in each Governing Body session? That'd leave ten turns at most for an inactive baronet to support someone.

[TinCow]

Mmm, PK peripherally raises a good point (In addition to the ones he went at directly, of course). We need some kind of inactivity limitation rules to prevent people from collecting Baronets who are only in the game as a technicality and not really participating. von Essen, von Hapsburg, et al from the end of KotR for example.

Say, if a player under an oath of fealty doesn't declare themselves inactive they are required to demonstrate a minimum amount of participation in order to hold on to their position. For that minimum... voting in each Governing Body session? That'd leave ten turns at most for an inactive baronet to support someone.

That's a very good point. That should definitely be done and I'll draw up some text for it. Also, one way of handling this is simply to have someone declare war on the inactive Baronet and squash him flat, taking his province.