Save My KOTR Elector (Open to all)

[flyd]

Save Matthias Steffen

[Ituralde]

Save Heinrich

[Kagemusha]

Save Hans

[_Tristan_]

Save Welf von Luxemburg

[Northnovas]

Save Hermann Steffen

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Andreas von Salzgitter
Edmund Becker
Fredericus von Hamburg
Karl Zirn
Tancred von Tyrolia

[Ferret]

save Edmund Becker

[Ignoramus]

Save: Andreas von Salzgitter.

[Ramses II CP]

Save Karl Zirn.

[_Tristan_]

And so finishes Peter's little buddy...

[Privateerkev]

And so finishes Peter's little buddy...

And Jan's dad...

If I only woke up 5 minutes sooner...

[Ramses II CP]

C'mon now, Karl deserved that save, and never mind if I'm partial to the core Illuminati members.

[Privateerkev]

C'mon now, Karl deserved that save, and never mind if I'm partial to the core Illuminati members.

And Fred didn't?

And I have probably saved more Illuminati members than the Illuminati players have.

[Northnovas]

To be honest I can not even remember half the characters and who played what.The late game names are better recall but the early ones are getting foggy and who played them.

Yes Fred would have been a good save too.

[_Tristan_]

Almost all avatars look like good saves to me, at this point...

[Ituralde]

For me it's the exactly the other way around for obvious reasons. I cherish most if not all of the early characters while I've never even heard about the more recent ones.

[GeneralHankerchief]

For me it's the exactly the other way around for obvious reasons. I cherish most if not all of the early characters while I've never even heard about the more recent ones.

QFT

They were the forefathers.

[Kagemusha]

QFT

They were the forefathers.

Agreed.

[Ramses II CP]

And Fred didn't?

And I have probably saved more Illuminati members than the Illuminati players have.

Now, now, it says nothing about any other character's worth for me to say that Zirn deserved to be saved. I personally wasn't there for much of what Karl did, but reading through his history he was one of the bedrock characters through the middle of the Reich's expansion and life. We are favoring the later era characters IMHO, but that has nothing to do with Zirn's continuance.

[Ferret]

yeah all the newer players are saving each others newer (and obviously less memorable ) avatars so the ones that really deserve saving are lost.

[Zim]

If we are it isn't helping us much. The list looks pretty barren of newer avatars to me. If anything it seems like the middle generation is winning.

yeah all the newer players are saving each others newer (and obviously less memorable ) avatars so the ones that really deserve saving are lost.

[Cecil XIX]

Wow, that was pretty fast. Here are the results so far.

23. Fredericus von Hamburg - Arch-rival of Gunther von Kastilien, he joined the 2nd Crusade after being passed over as Dietrich von Saxony's successor, oversaw it's ultimate victory and spent the rest of his days in Outremer fighting against the Mongols and the Egyptians.
23. Tancred von Tyrolia - A soft-spoken man who rarely made himself heard in the Diet, this Franconian is responsible for two of the Reich's most dramatic moments: The sacking of Constantinople and the death of Fritz von Kastilien. He was a close friend of Kaiser Peter.
25. Dietrich von Saxony - First Duke of Franconia, Dietrich got into an argument with Kaiser Heinrich and was banished from the Diet. Upon his return he became a sober leader, and he died peacefully traveling with the First Crusade. He was known as the 'Old Warhorse' of the Reich.
25. Siegfried von Kastilien - The first Franconian Kaiser, Siegfried married a Byzantine Princess and began to enact a complete political and religious unification with them. This as an extremely unpopular move, which lead to both his assassination by the Illuminati and the Cataclysm.
27. Erhart Ruppel - One of Swabia's last Electors, Erhart quickly distinguished himself as a skilled tactician and politician, establishing himself as the closest thing to a ruling authority Swabia had. He sided with the Imperialists, and was struck down by Maximillian Zirn.
27. Frederich Karolinger - A RBG of Bavaria, Frederich fought in the battles plaguing Italy towards the end of the Reich. A great friend of Austria, he fought valiantly to help defend Budapest. He died in the massive battle to free Milan from a Byzantine siege.
29. Dietrich von Dassel - One of the key instigators of the Cataclysm, Dietrich assembled an army and killed the Pope at Durazzo. After crossing the Adriatic making his way towards Swabia with the intent of usurping Duke Hans, he perished at the climactic Battle of Bern.
29. Ulrich Hummel - The only Chancellor to suffer impeachment, Ulrich was a rebel to the core and defied the authority of the Charter on several occassions, including an illegal attack on Rheims. After his impeachment, he rode to his death against the Turks due to the disgrace.
31. Fredericus Erlach - A Bavarian who married into the Steffen family, Fredericus displayed great martial prowess with his campaigns in Corsica and northern Italy during the Cataclysm. He was greatly surprised to learn of the Battle of Trent, having been on vacation at the time.
31. Jonas von Mahren - A Franconian, Jonas was a friend of Austria who spent a great deal of time fighting in and around Bohemia. Tragically, he buried both of his sons. This left him an extremely bitter man when he died, and he hated the Reich more than any other elector.
33. Ansehelm von Kastilien - Duke of Franconia, Ansehelm was an outspoken, self-centered man with a penchant for alienating those around him. His most notable achievement was the Crusade against the Russians, a large-scale raid deep into their territory.
33. Ludwig von Bohmen - Ludwig appeared joining Wolfang Hummel, having fled his family's ruined holdings to find a people whom he could protect. His heart was too easily troubled to be a soldier's, but he nonetheless fought valiantly against the French and with the Republicans.
35. Jens Hummel - An ambitious young noble, down on his luck and eager to restore his family name, Jens nevertheless had difficulty inspiring confidence in those around him. He died under the command of Hans in a battle against the Mongols, his ambitions unfulfilled.
35. Jobst von Salza - 3rd Kaiser of the Reich, Jobst ascended to the throne after Kaiser Henry. He gained infamy as Prince for accidentally ambushing a Danish army on crusade, and as Kaiser he is best remembered for his death in battle, which installed Siegfried von Kastilien.
37. Athalwolf von Salza - The last Duke of Swabia, Athalwolf was the son of a Kaiser whose family originally hails from Rheims. His 'hands-off' approach to leadership led to difficulties for his house, but me met a good end in the Battle of Trent alongside the Imperialists.
37. Sigismund von Mahren - Half-brother of Arnold via Leopold, Sigismund was a chivalrous general, giving every courtesy to friend and foe alike. Thus he met an early end when he conquered Bran, defeating the King of Hungary with one regiment of spearmen.
39. Gunther von Kastilien - The 2nd Duke of Franconia, and founder of the Castilian Dynasty. Recognized by his family as the wisest among them, he was well liked, save for his arch-rival and fellow crusader Fredericus von Hamburg.
40. Gerhard Steffen - The 2nd Duke of Bavaria and father of Lothar and Matthias. He achieved great renown in Italy fighting the Venetians, the Hungarians and the Pacacy, most notable in the final battle against Pope Gregory. His achievements have placed him 40th.
41. Jan Zirn - Second son of Karl, Jan Zirn played a short but important role in the history of the Reich by fighting at Battle of Trent and aiding in his brother's deception of the Imperialists. This has been enough to secure him 41st place.
42. Sigismund der Stolze - The first Elector to die, and the only one to be assassinated, Sigismund was one of the Reich's first chivalrous generals. Having fought well against the French, he was rumored to have been a candidate for Prinz before his death. He places 42nd.
43. Lorenz Zirn - Of House Austria, he made a name for himself waging war against the Hungarians alongside his non-relative Karl Zirn. During the climax of the Cataclysm he came to the aid of Edmund Becker, saving Prague several times up to and including his death.
44. Dieter von Kassel - The last Prinz of the HRE, Dieter was a quiet man and rumored to have been quite mad. Regardless, he made a fine Prinz and had no enemies. This strategy has given him 44th place in this contest.
45. Maximillian Zirn - Youngest son of Karl Zirn, in the Battle of Trent he played the role of double-agent for the Illuminati and killed Erhart Ruppel, the first bad news the Imperialists would receive that day. Though it was his only achievement, it was enough to get him 45th place.
46. Maximillian von Hapsburg - The opportunist from House Austria, Maximillian was the only Imperialist to survive the Battle of Trent. After taking a break for a booze-cruise on the high seas, he is currently God-King of the Aztecs and has reached 46th place in this contest.
47. Frederich Scherer - The first Duke to be eliminated; for a man of such rank this Swabian kept a low profile. He decimated the French with no less than four famous battle markers in lieu of spending time in the Diet. This earned him much admiration, and placed him 47th.
48. Jan von der Pflaz - One of the pair of Generals who flocked to Wolfgang Hummel's banner, he was a staunch Lutherist who guarded Luther himself in the last years of their lives. His selfless sacrifice in taking Bruges has tied him for 48th.
48. Johann Zirn - The first son of Karl Zirn, he died less than twenty years after his father during the relief of Vienna under mysterious circumstances. His early death has resulted in placing 48th.
48. Lukas Godwinson - Though he had an impeccably well-developed backstory, this son of an english invader died of the plague before he could make a lasting impression on the Reich as the whole. The result is his placing 48th.
51. Erhart von Mahren - Though he did not last long, Erhart's death provided a lot of character development for his father Jonas and brother Sigismund. That was enough for him to survive the first round, but no more.
51. Helmut von Hamburg - Despite seething in anger against his brother Jan in the Diet, Helmut died in the Russian Crusade before be could make a stronger impression and has likewise been eliminated early from this contest.
51. Wilhelm von Heidelberg - An intensely chivalrous man, immediately after joining Austria he was captured by the Poles and executed after a disastrous battle north of Budapest. It was a tragic end, but not a memorable one and thus he is eliminated.
54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially an avatar, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. His tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

And thus, the next round commences! Here are the Electors to be saved.

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Andreas von Salzgitter
Arnold
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Fritz von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lothar Steffen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

[Kagemusha]

save Leopold

[Ituralde]

Save Heinrich

...mainpulating old bastard...

[Privateerkev]

save Elberhard

[Ferret]

Save Arnold

[Privateerkev]

Now, now, it says nothing about any other character's worth for me to say that Zirn deserved to be saved. I personally wasn't there for much of what Karl did, but reading through his history he was one of the bedrock characters through the middle of the Reich's expansion and life. We are favoring the later era characters IMHO, but that has nothing to do with Zirn's continuance.

I know. I was just kidding. Which is why I added the obligatory "I'm kidding smiley" that looks much like a clown.

[Ferret]

What you mean the smiley that is present in 90% of the posts made by you, Zim or me, among many others, and is rarely absent from a page in the Throne Room.

edit: nearly forgot:

[Privateerkev]

What you mean the smiley that is present in 90% of the posts made by you, Zim or me, among many others, and is rarely absent from a page in the Throne Room.

Yes. It is merely a coincidence that the smiley looks like a clown.

(notice the absence of the "just kidding" smiley. That denotes that this post is very very serious.)

[Ferret]

Wow a serious post, haven't seen you make one of them in a while PK. Hmmmm let me see what about... :justkidding:

damn, it doesn't work

[Privateerkev]

Wow a serious post, haven't seen you make one of them in a while PK. Hmmmm let me see what about... :justkidding:

damn, it doesn't work

Qui-Gon makes very serious posts in the Star Wars Mafia thread.

(notice there is still the conspicuous absence of a "just kidding" smiley.)

Now, in an attempt to re-rail the thread, I too have noticed that the electors that are saved tend to be the latest avatars of those that are participating. Now there are certainly exceptions. But that seems to be the trend.