Save My KOTR Elector (Open to all)

[AussieGiant]

Good god GH, that's truly incredible how fast you did that. Well done yet again. You and Cecil seem to have similar skills in being able to summarise an entire life into three sentences or less

Interesting results that's for sure. It's a completely different way of trying to get the same "feel" of a result.

A number of nice overlaps where the polling and the number crunching match up.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Good god GH, that's truly incredible how fast you did that.

The Library, Mausoleum, and Histories thread really helped. Godsends for counting the Diet votes and number of stories/battle reports.

[Privateerkev]

Good work.

I think you missed a couple points though.

Jan was:

1.) the true son of another Elector (Fredericus von Hamburg)

2.) had more than 5 battle reports made by character (if mentioned as a secondary general, counts as ½ a battle report) (Jan was mentioned in a lot of battle reports)

3.) x2 for active participation (fought in a battle) in a civil war – Counts or lower (Jan was a knight in the Battle of Bern.)

4.) +3 for participation in a Crusade (not just being present in Outremer – Teutonic Crusade counts) (Jan was in both the 2nd and 3rd Crusade. You mentioned killing the Pope as a one time bonus only so it makes me assume that this bonus is given per Crusade.)

So, that might be another 3 for Bern, 1 for being Fred's son, 3 for another Crusade, and probably 1 for being mentioned in battle reports. If all of this is true, he might have 48 points which would tie him for 7th with Lothar.

[GeneralHankerchief]

1) Looks like I forgot that one.

2) According to my records, you made zero battle reports in the thread. This would mean that Jan would have to be a secondary general in 10 other battles, and I don't count that many.

3) Okay, you can't have your cake and eat it too. I gave Jan the King level plus its 1.5 multiplier. It's either that or the x2 multiplier for a lower rank. No fair using phantom multipliers.

4) TBH, I didn't realize that anybody had been on two Crusades when adding that bonus. It's kind of unfair to think of whether I'd add that or not now. We'll make up the difference and give him a +1.5 bonus.

So this adds 2.5 to Jan's score, putting him at 42.5 total.

[Ramses II CP]

Ye gods I can't even begin to guess at how much work that was either.

I'm quite surprised by Fritz's placement in that system. I suppose he did have a pretty significant impact on the endgame, but IMHO any system that places him ahead of Lothar Steffen, who was the source of a lot of his opportunities to score points, has to have an inherent flaw.

I thought I had a battle marker or two as well, but in truth it's been a long time since I looked at the KotR save and I might be full of it.

If I can be subjective in my own direction for a moment, the results I'd be most interested in are (For example) a save-my-elector-ish contest for best battle story, best individual story, best ongoing (Multiple individual additions or updates) story line, etc. I am, by avocation more than by vocation, a writer and for such a disparate group I think we produced some good, entertaining, and generally consistent fiction. Of course for such a contest to work fairly we'd have to bar the writers from participating, or at least formalize the rule against voting for yourself.

[GeneralHankerchief]

All I did for battle markers was check TinCow's list in the Library. Granted, the last entry was from 1338, so it might be missing some.

[Privateerkev]

I checked the battle reports. Jan was mentioned in 7 of them. At half, that doesn't reach the 5 report threshhold. For some reason, I thought he was in more than that.

So, 42.5 it is. Which puts him nicely in 10th place.

[Privateerkev]

1.) thanks!

2.) I'll have to check. Econ and Matthias wrote Jan in a lot. I always asked to have Jan participate in battles as a secondary general.

3.) Shucks. I had to try. :D

4.) Fair enough. Was Jan the only avatar on 2 crusades? Hans might have been as well.