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    Centurio: No. It is not retroactive, you must start a new campaign. On the other hand, it won't harm your current one either to install it. Yes, it's bad for campaign balance to not have these correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    Centurio: No. It is not retroactive, you must start a new campaign. On the other hand, it won't harm your current one either to install it. Yes, it's bad for campaign balance to not have these correct.
    Why is it bad for campaign balance, what traits am I missing? Are there new traits like "killed 5000 in battle" or something along those lines? Because I'm 10 years now into my campaign, and as always I was much to eager to start instead of taking a look at the fixes-thread first... And I like my campaign, I don't want to start all over again.

    Edit: When I install it, won't they just from then on get the correct traits for the upcoming battles?
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    All the information I could give you is already in the OP and my previous response. It is NOT retroactive. It will make no difference to your ongoing campaign, good or bad. It concerns tons of battle triggers.
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    Yes OK Mr. Bovi. The confusing arose because "retroactive" normally means ex tunc, and not ex nunc. So if something is not retroactive, it should function from then onward. I don't think I want to skip my campaign for some battle triggers.
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    nevermind I found my error
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    Has the Client Ruler trait been removed in the newer optimised script? Because I just spawned some client rulers, and they were generals. Not interloping, but still generals, not client rulers.

    Old script still works fine; will I cause CTD-error issues if I continue to switch in the old script whenever I want to spawn a client ruler?
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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    I can't find where I saw the post but I believe the new client ruler fix gives you a general who acquires the client ruler trait next turn.

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    Oh. Does that mean I should go back to my save before and keep using the new script?

    I won't take any chances given what happened to my last game. It was only about six turns anyway.

    EDIT: New script works just fine, there's that delay of a turn before they become client rulers. Delete these two posts, they're just cluttering up the thread now.
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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Did you try it?

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Do I have to start a new campaign for the fixes to take effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wernicke View Post
    Do I have to start a new campaign for the fixes to take effect?
    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    Retroactive means having an effect on ongoing campaigns, and not retroactive means you'll have to start a new campaign to get its effects.
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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
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    Ah, well I'm playing Baktria and whenever I attack Sadagydia (Or whatever region is below Gandhara) the game CTD's even though I downloaded all the fixes, and the one I'm assuming is causing the CTD is the sprite thing which sais that its retroactive. I've restarted it about 7 times and let them sally out and attack me but the same thing happens.
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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    hallo to all

    I have tried in the FAQ, but I have not found answers for some doubts.

    I have installed E.B and I wanted to know before if it were better to install the bug-fix quickly, d' to begin the campaign or only if the game goes in crash

    for the bug fix not retroactive it seems to me normal to install them quickly. but for the bug fix retroactive?

    aspect that us is a problem I install or them quickly?

    I make excuses myself in advance payment if these things already have been discussed in the forum, but have not read null with regard to

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    The links for the fixes don't work.

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Then you are doing some filtering on your end. I believe some joker put us up for being P2P poisoners or something ridiculous like that, maybe you're using the software that believed it.

    You can also try another browser.

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    All i get if i click on the link is


    Index of (ftp://europabarbarorum.org/sprites.zip/[/url]
    Up to higher level directory
    Name Size Last Modified

    if i click up to higher level directory then i get page load error.

    i got the same list as that other guy and figured it out, thanks.
    Last edited by Sparta955; 10-20-2008 at 13:42.

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Which of the client ruler script optimizations should I use? The first one (retroactive) ore the second (not retroactive)? Or do I use both?

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    You need to decide for yourself. If you want stability, keep the permanent fix and don't install any optional one. If you want speed at the cost of stability and want to keep playing an ongoing campaign, get the retroactive one. If you want speed at the cost of stability and want to start a new campaign, get the non-retroactive one. I'm not sure, but I think the non-retroactive one is a bit more stable.

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    Hi

    I just downloaded EB 1.1 and i installed it into rtw folder that is NOT in the program files. EB starts up fine and the custom and historical battles work beautifully! However there is a problem! When i go into single player there is no campaign, it just has Custom battle and historical battle. I have no idea whats wrong and the campaign just isn't on the menu.

    Please help!

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: 1.1 fixes you should try before posting

    You installed the Trivial script, right? Change the settings there to campaign mode instead of multiplayer, or custom battle, or whatever it's called.

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