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    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
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    Nobody has managed to point out to me how the occupation of Tibet is worse than, say, the occupation of Iraq.

    Ah, I've got it. It's because one side is a dictatorship. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    Nobody has managed to point out to me how the occupation of Tibet is worse than, say, the occupation of Iraq.
    Do you just run around, derailing threads for your own amusement? Is that more or less fun than crushing kittens?

    However, I will play. The U.S.A. does not consider Iraq part of its natural territory. The U.S.A. does not intend to integrate Iraq into its homeland. The U.S.A. wants to get out of Iraq as soon as it reasonably can, and all of the hullabaloo you hear between political candidates over here is about when and how fast. Nobody who wants to stay or get in office is talking about an infinite occupation.

    The parallels just keep ... not happening. Why do the two seem comparable to you, anyway? Is there any serious, interesting observation you can make about the congruency of the two occupations, or are you just shooting from the hip, seeing if you hit anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Do you just run around, derailing threads for your own amusement? Is that more or less fun than crushing kittens?
    Derailing threads? Really? Perhaps you'd like to point out an example?

    As I see it, not only do Backroom threads generally get more derailed than this on a regular basis, but I am in the vast majority of cases not the instigator of this, and we're still talking about Tibet.

    I'll presume you're tired or something, as you're usually very polite.

    EDIT: Now I'm confused as to if your comments were in jest or not. By your comment below, I presume so.

    The parallels just keep ... not happening. Why do the two seem comparable to you, anyway? Is there any serious, interesting observation you can make about the congruency of the two occupations, or are you just shooting from the hip, seeing if you hit anything?
    Three agendas, to be honest.

    1) To get a rise out of people, of course. Not strictly amusing in it's own right, but it generally sparks some excellent debate.

    2) Both were invaded and occupied by powers who shouldn't be there in the first place. In this case, you can argue that China has more right to be in Tibet than America does in Iraq. Inhumane treatment and civilian casualties are commonplace in both places. Civilians were abducted by the occupiers and taken to places where their human rights were ripped to shreds. So on and so forth.

    3) I don't believe the Tibet protests make sense, just as much as I don't believe Iraq protests make sense - though for two completely different reasons. I believe that people have the right to protest, but the Chinese have the right to keep the flame in a secure, peaceful environment. They can protest from the sidelines, but the second someone moves to damage (put out) or disrupt the actual event, it becomes unacceptable. I'm not aware of the laws on this type of event in America, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    Derailing threads? Really? Perhaps you'd like to point out an example?
    I will only answer this question when you explain whether or not you prefer crushing kittens to the aforementioned activity. I asked a perfectly straightforward question about kitten crushing, and dang it, I deserve an answer!

    And since you've "dodged" my kitten-death question, you still owe me an answer, to a question which I will formulate any minute now. It's going to be something along the lines of "Why do you hate freedom?" but maybe more topical. I'll get to it presently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I will only answer this question when you explain whether or not you prefer crushing kittens to the aforementioned activity. I asked a perfectly straightforward question about kitten crushing, and dang it, I deserve an answer!
    On the contrary, I am a great fan of cats. Stomping on kittens gives me little pleasure. Shooting puppies? Still no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Do you just run around, derailing threads for your own amusement? Is that more or less fun than crushing kittens?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I will only answer this question when you explain whether or not you prefer crushing kittens to the aforementioned activity. I asked a perfectly straightforward question about kitten crushing, and dang it, I deserve an answer!

    And since you've "dodged" my kitten-death question, you still owe me an answer, to a question which I will formulate any minute now. It's going to be something along the lines of "Why do you hate freedom?" but maybe more topical. I'll get to it presently.
    Let me just derail this thread with a derailment.

    Personally I enjoy tossing puppies over cliffs. (Oh my, did he just say that?!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Let me just derail this thread with a derailment.

    Personally I enjoy tossing puppies over cliffs. (Oh my, did he just say that?!)


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