how can i create a unit of 1 soldier only?

[attila_of_nazareth]

a bit like if you’ve ever got units stuck in one place

ah yes i know what you mean.
if all the units occupied the same space then perhaps it wouldn’t look like you are fighting invisible enemies.

With the invisible units it would look odd because you would have units fighting who were invisible. You could set their defense to 0 and then they would all get killed really early in battle

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i thought of this too, but the general would be 0 by default [has the same data as the soldiers]?

Myrddraal’s solution is proberably best but mounts only have one attack value unless you can get the invisible mouts to fire projectiles. That is if you want a second ranged attack.

i don’t need secondary attacks for most monsters/giants e.g. talos. so units with mounts can be 1? hmm i’ll re-read what he said, to see what he meant, but i didn’t really understand what he meant.

thank you

[Thor the Bassist]

Oh I wasn't thinking on the last post - if you can get invisible troops with 0 attack 0 defense etc and then put 0 on the unit spacing it will work but it may give you a huge error if the unit spacing has a hardcoded limit. If not you could get a really good effect. I didn't link the two ideas.

The mount one has to be done well as it has some unwanted effects (so I've heard).

[attila_of_nazareth]

thanks thor, you have been most helpfull.
i’ll try a few of those ideas out and get back to you in a few days, just so you know if they work or not ~ for future reference.

p.s. know any mappers

[Thor the Bassist]

I am a battlemapper/settlement designer but am much too busy at the moment sorry. I can't think of anyone who isn't on another project. You could advertise at mod discussion or ad a new post in your thread at the forge - if you have one (remember forge is one mod, one thread).

[Myrddraal]

the number of soldiers is based on the number of riders.

If you put 12 invisible riders per mount, and make the unit size 6, then even on large unit sizes the 1 mount will be 1 unit I believe.

[attila_of_nazareth]

thanks mate!

i just tried that and got 48 talos’s [giant men] strangely i got no elephants at all! [and i didnt make them invisible]

i used cathage war elephants:

dictionary carthaginian_elephant_african ; War Elephants
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier carthaginian_elephant_crew, 12, 6, 1
mount elephant indian

should i be using the model as the crew? here i used it to replace the 'indian elephant' model and skin.

here’s the dmb entry [test]
type elephant_indian
skeleton fs_s1_barbswordsman
scale 9.0
indiv_range 40
texture carthage, SPARTA/data/models_unit/textures/01m_talos_CARTHAGE_GENERAL.TGA
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_high.cas, 15
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_med.cas, 30
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_low.cas, 40
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite 60.0, data/sprites/carthaginian_general_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5

[Makanyane]

did you also try changing the number of riders for it in descr_mount.txt?

Myrddraal was suggesting using twelve riders - the default is only three. If it uses more riders - you'll get less 'elephants' (your carthage general)

Also you can use 6 instead of 12 in the EDU entry.

You've replaced the elephant element with your general model so although he's human shaped he'll be acting like an elephant! He has become the mount. That is the right way around to do it if you want fewer units.

If you haven't made the crew invisible yet, you won't see them in most conditions anyway because your general doesn't have a proper place on his skeleton to attach them to. They will appear at odd moments though especially when they die, so you need to give the crew an invisible skin by excluding everything from the alpha channel in its tga.dds