how can i create a unit of 1 soldier only?

[Thor the Bassist]

I am a battlemapper/settlement designer but am much too busy at the moment sorry. I can't think of anyone who isn't on another project. You could advertise at mod discussion or ad a new post in your thread at the forge - if you have one (remember forge is one mod, one thread).

[Myrddraal]

the number of soldiers is based on the number of riders.

If you put 12 invisible riders per mount, and make the unit size 6, then even on large unit sizes the 1 mount will be 1 unit I believe.

[attila_of_nazareth]

thanks mate!

i just tried that and got 48 talos’s [giant men] strangely i got no elephants at all! [and i didnt make them invisible]

i used cathage war elephants:

dictionary carthaginian_elephant_african ; War Elephants
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier carthaginian_elephant_crew, 12, 6, 1
mount elephant indian

should i be using the model as the crew? here i used it to replace the 'indian elephant' model and skin.

here’s the dmb entry [test]
type elephant_indian
skeleton fs_s1_barbswordsman
scale 9.0
indiv_range 40
texture carthage, SPARTA/data/models_unit/textures/01m_talos_CARTHAGE_GENERAL.TGA
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_high.cas, 15
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_med.cas, 30
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_low.cas, 40
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/officer_carthage_general_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite 60.0, data/sprites/carthaginian_general_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5

[Makanyane]

did you also try changing the number of riders for it in descr_mount.txt?

Myrddraal was suggesting using twelve riders - the default is only three. If it uses more riders - you'll get less 'elephants' (your carthage general)

Also you can use 6 instead of 12 in the EDU entry.

You've replaced the elephant element with your general model so although he's human shaped he'll be acting like an elephant! He has become the mount. That is the right way around to do it if you want fewer units.

If you haven't made the crew invisible yet, you won't see them in most conditions anyway because your general doesn't have a proper place on his skeleton to attach them to. They will appear at odd moments though especially when they die, so you need to give the crew an invisible skin by excluding everything from the alpha channel in its tga.dds

[attila_of_nazareth]

ah i see! the men are there btw they were hidden by the sheer size of the giant lols.
he doesn’t act like an elephant at least he is not on all fours.

now i just got to change the movement speed and the way he attacks, at the moment he acts like other soldiers but slashes away in the air.
thanks a lot makanyane!

how many riders must go in desc mount? i put 12 and got an error

[Makanyane]

yeah I didn't mean he'd be on all fours... the skeleton animation you use in DMB determines that bit, but you should find that he's throwing other units around and 'trampling' them


note he can only use the secondary attack in EDU as an attack - the primary attack goes to the riders and as they aren't attached properly to the mount will give crash if they try to use it.


in descr_mount.txt - did you also add offset's for the right number of riders? if you look at existing ones it has

tusk_radius 5
riders 13
rider_offset 0.0, 4.75, 5.224
rider_offset 1, 4.94, 3.0
rider_offset -1, 4.94, 3.0
rider_offset 1, 4.94, 1.9
rider_offset -1, 4.94, 1.9
rider_offset 1, 4.94, 0.8
rider_offset -1, 4.94, 0.8
rider_offset 1, 4.94, -0.3
rider_offset -1, 4.94, -0.3
rider_offset 1, 4.94, -1.4
rider_offset -1, 4.94, -1.4
rider_offset 1, 4.94, -2.5
rider_offset -1, 4.94, -2.5

for oliphant - 13 riders = 13 rider_offset lines required.

EDIT:(I must admit I've had trouble getting these type units working properly too! Ours did in the end but he was meant to have 12 per unit so set ups a bit different)

[attila_of_nazareth]

makanyane, hi

you should find that he’s throwing other units around and ‘trampling’ them

that looks ok when you have a giant taller than the trees lol [9.0 scale]
i use the elephant indian, it has 3 riders, so i presume then that i make it 1 rider and 1 offset!

tusk_radius 2.0
riders 3
rider_offset 0.0, 1.225, 1.306
rider_offset 0.0, 1.1, 0.5
rider_offset 0, 1.1, -.25

to

riders 1
rider_offset 0.0, 1.225, 1.306


thanks for your help mate, this has been surprisingly difficult.