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    Default Re: Ancient Fortifications (don't know where to ask)

    Lilybaeum?

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    Thanks :)
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    Its worth taking a look at some of these on Google Earth :)

    Motya is notable for the underwater chariot path to the mainland from the north end.

    Can still see the outline of the Roman line with the big square camps at Lilybaeum but I can't work out quite where the actual city would have been.
    Supposedly the wall was extremely strong, it held off seiges from Syracuse, Phyrros & the Romans.
    From the plan views I don't really see how this can be though

    Eryx inland from Drepana has clouds on the photos but you can really see that its an amazingly strong position.

    Agrigentum is pretty cool but you can't really see fortification.

    Syracuse seems to have the biggest chunk of ancient fortification around, well worth a look, especially at the Euryalus fort at the western extremity, it was essentially impregnable & provided very strong flank protection to the gate just to the north.
    The actual Ortigia part is all medieval castle now though.

    Similarly Gadiz is out on the end of a long peninsular & would have been very strong though I've not been able to see any traces of the ancient fortifications.

    Cartago Nova I've not really been able to work out where the ancient bits are, seems to be some infill in the harbour either by human landfill or just silting/alluvial action.

    Supposedly Suguntum was very strong. Dodge has a nice plan of this in Hannibal.
    Also some nice info on the walls of Carthage & plans of a bunch of the other cities there but eg Lilybaeum plan is clearly way off.
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Yes hoom I thought about it though I haven't really tried it out. The problem is that, most of the ancient fortifications are gone. Actually, I'll have a look now. You got me curious :)

    But is it possible that nobody wrote a book about these collectively? I guess I'd have to look through all the journals to find what I want then..
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    I already tried G-earth, its of little help.
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    I know I have a map of Locri somewhere. I'll go get it for you.


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    Default Re: Ancient Fortifications (don't know where to ask)

    Very Hires

    Now here is a little better look at the ruins at Lilybaeum using Virt-Globetrotting. You can see this on G-earth, but not nearly as well.

    http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/...iew/?service=1

    you may want to try this?

    http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...3254&encType=1

    use the small map in the upper right hand as a guide. this would make a nice little teaching tool.
    Last edited by cmacq; 04-17-2008 at 06:32.
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