Roman Adoption

[Horst Nordfink]

The first campaign I played on the brilliant new EB1.1 was Rome. I had only played a few years with Rome when a captain had proved himself worthy of adoption into the family of Cnaeus Cornelius Scipio Asina. This captain was named Cnaeus Licinus Crassus, and I must say, I adopted him based purely on his name, and sent him straight to Rome.

A few years later, i received a message about a certain Cneaus Cornelius Scipio. This puzzled me as I didn't think I had anyone by that name in my family. On closer inspection, it was my adopted captain, Cnaeus Licinius Crassus! A trait he had "Adopted into Gens Cornelia" right below another trait "Gens Licinia".

Is this a new thing for EB1.1? Or have I just completely missed this, and it's been in since the start?

[SaberHRE]

It was in 1.0 definately. Btw I think there are two new gens in the game. Sempronii and Licinii.

[Xehh II]

This happened in one of my 1.0 roman campaigns as well, only twice though.

[Horst Nordfink]

Does this only happen when captains get adopted? I have had other adoptions where they've kept their own name.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Was he a "Man of the Hour" adoption? That's usually when he gets adopted into a gens, at least the way it was intended.

[Horst Nordfink]

Yes, Cnaeus Licinius Crassus was "Man of the Hour". I really liked that aspect of the game. Shouldn't the regular adoptions change the name as well then?

It would be nice if -anus was added to the nomen too, but I have no idea if that is possible. Either way, superb addition to the game!

[bigmilt16]

there is also the "valerius" line of families too.

[Horst Nordfink]

I'm struggling to think of anyone called Valerius.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Yes, Cnaeus Licinius Crassus was "Man of the Hour". I really liked that aspect of the game. Shouldn't the regular adoptions change the name as well then?

It would be nice if -anus was added to the nomen too, but I have no idea if that is possible. Either way, superb addition to the game!

That's it then. Normally "adoption" in the Roman faction means "sponsorship" but a "Man of the Hour" is directly adopted. The idea was the vary the Roman Gens you see while still allowing for actual adoptions.

[L.C.Cinna]

I'm struggling to think of anyone called Valerius.

from the fasti consulares:

P. Valerius Poplicola was one of the first consuls of Rome 509/508/507/504

M. Valerius in 504

In EB's timeframe (just an excerpt):

286 M. Valerius Maximus

280 P. Valerius Laevinus

263 M'. Valerius Maximus Mesalla

261 L. Valerius Flaccus

239/239 Q. Valerius Falto

227 P. Valerius Flaccus

226 M. Valerius Maximus Messalla

220 M. Valerius Laevinus

...

goes on like this...


edit: just found a whole list of them on wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerius

[Atilius]

For the Romans, we've chosen to portray the "Man of the Hour" event as a true adoption, so the character takes the name of his adoptive family. What used to be "normal" adoptions are now cast as the establishment of a patron/client relationship. If you look at the event message text carefully, you'll note that it says:

This man has proven his worth as a true Roman, and would do much to bring honour and strength to his patron. Do you wish to formally accept him as a client?

Clients retain their family names after the relationship has been established.

[Sir Edward]

Also Sharon "Boomer" Valerii from BSG

[Atilius]

I should also mention the 6 new gens:

Valeria (Flaccvs, Maximvs, Messalla)
Ivnia (Brvtvs, Silanvs, Bvbvlcvs, Pera)
Sempronia (Blaesvs, Cracchvs, Longvs, Tvditanvs)
Caecilia (Metellvs)
Licinia (Crassvs, Lvcvllvs)
Calpvrnia (Piso)

[KhaziOfKalabara]

I should also mention the 6 new gens:

Valeria (Flaccvs, Maximvs, Messalla)
Ivnia (Brvtvs, Silanvs, Bvbvlcvs, Pera)
Sempronia (Blaesvs, Cracchvs, Longvs, Tvditanvs)
Caecilia (Metellvs)
Licinia (Crassvs, Lvcvllvs)
Calpvrnia (Piso)

I'm sure that I had a Licinius Crassus in 1.0...

Glad to know that my waiting for a Iunius Brutus will no longer be in vain.

[Atilius]

I'm sure that I had a Licinius Crassus in 1.0...

No, but you may have had a Fabius Licinus.

[SaberHRE]

Hey Atillius

If this isn't too much of a problem, could you list how many gens are there at the moment, and which ones are incorporated, because I've heard that there are 11 and 2 new, and now when you introduced 6 new, I'm really confused

[Atilius]

...could you list how many gens are there at the moment...

There were 11 in 1.0 and 6 new ones in 1.1 for a total of 17.

[Hax]

And I think that says enough for all those 'The EB Team hates the Romani' threads.

[KhaziOfKalabara]

No, but you may have had a Fabius Licinus.

That sounds plausible. Was the cognomen Crassus always associated with gens Licinia?

[Atilius]

That sounds plausible. Was the cognomen Crassus always associated with gens Licinia?

Not exclusively. There was a Claudius Crassus in 1.0 also.