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    The Turkish delegate proposes the following terms, as a man of simple Islamic learning, the Caliph's well educated negotiator has him a little lost.

    Rome is to pay 10,000 florins to Turkey for reparations, over a two year period.

    Ikonion is to be returned to us immediately.

    They are not to claim Cilicia, and because of that, the Armenian delegation will most likely have nothing more to say in the matter. The Romans are also to return the Armenian city they still hold and withdraw peacefully, by ship or through Turkish lands, and we will not attack them.


    In exhange for this, an immediate cease-fire is to be called and a peace treaty honoured. Our forces will have safe passage out of Nicomedia, and we will withdraw from our assault on Constantinople which is scheduled to occur next season. Roman forces will also have safe passage through our lands, so long as it is in the direction of their borders.

    This opens the path for new treaties:

    The Romans have demands as well, and a seperate treaty is in order for that matter. They desire Heraclea, and we desire Heraclea. We also desire Sinop and Trebizonid, all three of which are either no longer in Roman control or are about to become Coalition possessions.

    Reparations will be paid to Rome for Sinop and Trebizonid as they have demanded from Georgia. However, since Georgia is not present, the Turks are offering to pay that 2,000 silver pieces on their behalf.

    Heraclea can then be sold to the Romans for the purchase price of 2,000 silver pieces whenever they please. Also, if the Romans desire Sinop or Trebizonid, we are willing to discuss the sale price of these possessions in the future. For now, we would like to occupy the land to bolster our finances, and perhaps sell them later.


    When this second peace accord becomes active, further negotiations will be possible. For now, our borders are defined as Heraclea, Ankara, Ikonion, and all points east until claimed by allied or friendly territory. The Armenians are defined as Karaman and Seleukeia and all points east until claimed by allied or friendly territory. and the Romans are defined as Nicomedia, Dorylaeum, Amorium, Attalia, Nicosia, Famagusta, and Constantinople, and all points south until claimed by the Ayyubids, who can discuss their claims in Africa with the Romans seperately, and it is not a matter for these proceedings.

    The Romans and the Turks both claim the Kypchak domain, however a third peace accord will divide our claims amicably at that time.

    Does the Roman agree with the First Peace Accord?

    Does the Roman agree with negotiating or signing the Second Peace Accord?

    Will the Roman desire to discuss the status of the Kypchaks in the Third Peace Accord?


    Finally, as I have discussed with Armenia, with their homelands reclaimed, I ask that they bow out of these proceedings. Once the First Peace Accord is signed, they are no longer a party to the negotiations. In order for this peace to be achieved, they will not be getting reparations directly from Rome. I will personally help with the reconstruction, and if they will honour the Treaty of Adana, that should be good enough.
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    The Caliph laughs.

    Apologies friends, it seems that in trying to make things simpler I have simply made them more complicated!

    What say the Romans to the Turk's re-structured offer?
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    Your help is extremely appreciated noble Caliph.

    Rome agrees in most part with the Sultanate's offer, but would make the following modifications (to be taken as a single block):

    1- Herakleia is to be returned to Rome without any price attached to it.

    2- Seleukeia is to be under Roman jurisdiction.

    3- The final amount of money to circulate between the Sultanate and Rome is 8000 to be payed over a 2 years period to the Sultanate (Rome owes the Sultanate 10,000 while the Sultanate, in Georgia's name, owes Rome 2000)

    If these minor changes are agreed upon, I believe we have a deal.

    As for Kypchack lands, Rome claims none apart from Krimeia. The rest can be freely taken by all comers, the Sultanate included. Let us note that Roman sovereignty over Krimeia has not been contested here, we hope this does not pose a problem.

    Hopefully, the resolution of the current conflict is near.

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    Yes, an oversight on our part. I had to write the thing quickly as my parchment is running out of ink...

    (computer issues)

    Terms agreed upon.
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    The Caliph is pleased.

    Allah u Akhbar! It seems we have reached an agreement. (OOC: )

    I propose that this peace agreement be known as the Treaty of Baghdad.

    However, the Armenians are yet to declare their consent to these terms - when they have spoken I will arrange for the scribes to produce a draft of the Treaty here for the signatures of all three parties.

    The terms can then be announced at Court.
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    The mail-clad Armenian adresses the Caliph respectfully.

    As I often stated in these rooms, Armenians are a peaceful people. So for the sake of peace, I will agree to the treaty as it has been drafted.

    Anyway, I would like everyone to know that once again Armenia got the wrong end of the proverbial stick and the next betrayal will be paid in blood and with no recourse whatsoever.

    With a last bow to the Caliph, the Armenian leaves the room, clearly disgusted by the result of the talks.
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    I am sorry if our Armenian friends feel they have been pressured into accepting a deal they are not happy with - if they are truly dissatisfied they should say so and hold out for separate negotiations with the Romans, independently of the Turkish deal.

    For the time being the scribes have drafted the Treaty of Baghdad as follows:


    - Rome is to pay 8,000 florins to Turkey in reparations, over a two year period.

    - Ikonion is to be returned to Turkey immediately.

    - The Romans renounce all territorial claims to Cilicia, and will return Adana to Armenian control immediately.

    - The Roman force currently garrisoning Adana will withdraw peacefully, by ship or through Turkish lands.

    - Heraklea is to be returned to Roman control immediately.

    - Rome's territorial claims to Seleukeia and Krimeia are recognised by Turkey and Armenia.


    Noble friends, please review the terms of the agreement and confirm once more you are in agreement by placing your signatures at the bottom of the document.

    Upon execution, the Treaty will be announced at Court and these talks will be at an end.
    Last edited by phonicsmonkey; 04-17-2008 at 10:10.
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