They're the natural party of government (or were, until Mrs Thatcher stuffed the party with her yuppie allies and other such parvenus), of course they're heartless.Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
They're the natural party of government (or were, until Mrs Thatcher stuffed the party with her yuppie allies and other such parvenus), of course they're heartless.Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
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People are going to declare me insane, but I'd vote and probably volunteer to campaign for the liberal democrats. I like some of their positions (proportional representation for teh win) and besides there's no way they could do worse then either the other two.
No laughing here they are the ony political party i have ever voted for, It was mainly as an anti-Iraq war vote but the Lib Dems are alot closer to my views than the Cons or Lab, as i live in a safe labour seat i will probably be voting Lib Dems again.
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Rythmic - that is one of the most hilarious and stupid posts I have possibly ever seen on this board - and that is saying something. Quite how you think it is 'interesting' is beyond me, it is straight off some 13 year olds blog, devoid of reality or reason. Anyway....
It is quite possible for Brown to be neither a genius or pinhead - and he is pretty much in the middle.
He is not a good PM in my opinion, but he isn't a disaster either. The tax changes have been disasterous, talk about selling off your base - and his PR moves have likewise been terrible.
In fact, I can't really defend too much of his record because it has either been pandering to the middle class - a three year pander I am sure it will be in leading up to the elections two years from now - or it has been ineffecial and even somewhat non-existent.
My views on the state of our nation is in a pretty bleak state right now, I don't really know where to turn.
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Rhythmic if you don't want the Parliamentary majority to be able to enact whatever laws it wants you will either have to convince the rest of Britain to adopt a different constitutional system or move to another country.
You are insane. What exactly is it about a bunch of wooly minded middle class whingers that you think fits them to run the country?People are going to declare me insane, but I'd vote and probably volunteer to campaign for the liberal democrats.![]()
I've met a few LD candidates in my time, and I have never once thought anything other than that I was meeting a sad little man/woman who needed to get a wash, a haircut, and most importantly laid.
I'd rather have Alan B'Stard or Dave Spart any day.
I don't claim to be an expert on the Republicans but from what I do know the Tories bear little resemblance to them. For a start the Tories have no (meaningful) religious right, have always been much more international in outlook, I seriously hope no Tory party would ever have pursued Bush's dont tax and do spend economic policies, I can't imagine the GOP being as in favour of vested interests (ahem, well, ok, but what I mean is I don't think of the republicans as being small c conservatives) and so on.The Tories are like a heartless and out of touch version of the G.O.P.
IMHO the Tories more resemble a slightly more reactionary version of the democrats, although the resemblance isn't that close.
You can't learn anything about the Tories from Thatcher. She wasn't really a Tory, she was a Whig, and of a particular sort. Nothing wrong with whigs, but very different animals. Just contrast her with Cameron, who I think truly is a Tory, for good and bad.
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You are insane. What exactly is it about a bunch of wooly minded middle class whingers that you think fits them to run the country?
I tend to think of Daily Mail when i think of middle class whiners, which basically leads me to think of the conservative labour party (ive decided recently they are infact one party tricking us into thinking thier 2 partys)
But i do think the LD's have had some good policys over the years....
Keep the same basic income from tax but shift the burden more from the poorest to the richest
Cannabis Legalisation, the only major party to have it as a policy
The Iraq war, the only party that said no
The most impressive array of green policys the Con Lab party is still catching up.
The most dissenting party when it came to the wave of anti-terror legislation
Thats just off the top of my head but they are 5 policys i fully support. I realise as they never seem like they're going to be in power they could just be pandering to the electorate and none of thier individual politicians are paticularly inspiring but just based on policy IMO the LD's are streets ahead of the Con Lab party
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I don't think that any of the big politicians in the UK have the nations best interests at heart. They should therefore put me in charge.
Britain has become a one-party state. We need some foreign power to come and liberate us. Or a series of communist/nationalist revolutions to split the country apart.
Lets start in Scotland. Its quite funny how the Labour Party are fighting with the nationalists because Labour don't want to achnowledge Trade Unions.
Its a sad, sad situation. For all the faults of the SNP, at least they are not closet Thatcherites.![]()
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
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