Multiple simultaneous victories?

[Praetor Rick]

What happens if you achieve multiple victory conditions at the same time?

Say, as Gaul, you eliminate the SPQR and take your 50th province at the same time, by conquering Rome. Assuming the Julii are already done for, that should give you Survivor (short campaign victory) and Imperator (long campaign victory) at the same time. Further - what if, as Gaul, you've conquered every single province on the map prior to taking Rome - that should give you the "You've conquered everything, there's nothing more to do" victory, whatever it's called.

Do you get all applicable victory FMV's, or only the "first" one, or only the "greatest" one, or what? Gaul has the most obvious path to all 3 victories at the same time, but anyone can do it if they make sure their short victory condition enemy gets set up in Rome before they conquer the whole world.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I think that for the Short Campaign and Long Campaign dual victory scenario, the victory corresponding to the campaign victory conditions being played will be shown.

If this is correct, then if the Long Campaign was selected, the Long Campaign Victory would be shown. If the Short Campaign was selected, the Short Campaign victory would be shown. The Long Campaign victory conditions are used if the player chooses to carry on after loosing or winning the Short Campaign (if it were selected) so, in that case, the Long Campaign victory would be displayed.

The only complication is what happens if the player is playing the short campaign and chooses to continue. In that case, I'm tempted to presume that the Long Campaign victory message is shown immediately after the choice to carry on is selected.

Don't quote me on that though - it's just my presumptions of how it works.

As for conquering the map, I'd guess that you'd first get the long campaign victory message and, if you choose to continue, the map conquest message.

That I'm even less certain about though.

[Barry]

This would be hard to try as you would have to do a short campaign but whilst you were still conquering Europe, Egypt could have their victory conditions resulting in a loss for you.

[Praetor Rick]

This would be hard to try as you would have to do a short campaign but whilst you were still conquering Europe, Egypt could have their victory conditions resulting in a loss for you.

True, it wouldn't be easy at all. You'd definately have to spend a great deal of time acting as a "spoiler" for some of the typically dominant factions.

The trick is to take down whichever "big dog" player is close to you quickly, and then gut the other posthaste. If you can stop the three Roman factions and Egypt from winning the game, usually nobody else is a problem. Other than those, the typical power player only has maybe 10 provinces, so it doesn't matter who you eliminate. It's only the Romans and Egypt who tend to be big enough that making sure their short campaign enemies stay alive is an issue.

[Quirinus]

While, at the same time, making sure you don't kill the faction you're supposed to kill too prematurely. I'd imagine that at one point you might even have to help out a faction against some other aggressor.

[Praetor Rick]

While, at the same time, making sure you don't kill the faction you're supposed to kill too prematurely. I'd imagine that at one point you might even have to help out a faction against some other aggressor.

Well, you have to get your short victory prey to settle down in Rome. Once you've done that, since you almost certainly have the rest of Italy, your short victory prey is about as safe as it's possible to be. At least until you decide to obliterate them and win the game.

The Gauls definately have it easiest, since their short victory prey faction *STARTS* in Rome.